errors and oddballs

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Arizona Jack, Dec 13, 2008.

  1. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    All year long, I have a coffee can that is labeled " Oddballs, woody's and errors " and as I sort bags, rolls, etc I toss them in the can.

    I have a large group of what I THINK is broadstrikes> Can an error person confirm this? They are all in the 50's I think....I have taken a close up of a cpl nicer ones for better viewing, but all the coins in this group display the same effect.

    Also see the 3 severly struck thru's ( I think )


    As I am sorting the can this weekend, I'll get pics up of some of my better finds. My best guess is that I did about 100 bags this year, so about 1/2 million wheats that I personally sorted. Next year, I hope to have more of a life, lol.
     

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  3. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    The first and second ones both look like strike throughs the 3rd one looks kind of like a dremel or something. It looks like the mintmark is kind of on the edge of the "area under speculation".
     
  4. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    They would all need to be looked at closely, some of the cents may be broadstrikes but most look like coins that have been removed from encasements, as they are called. Do a search for encased cents and you will see what I mean.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  5. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    Yes, that was my first impression as well...removed from "lucky penny" holders and such. Can you describe the rims of these coins? The encased cents have a squashed look to the rims, where metal is bulging out the sides, similar to a wheel on a train.
     
  6. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Jack,

    I can't tell much about the group of cents in the 1st picture. I agree that the two 1958-D Cents appear to have been encased. Also, the three Cents in the last picture are De-Lamination Errors.


    Frank
     
  7. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    Im no error expert but these were never encased then removed. These are common dates, lower grades and would be worth more if left encased. And I highly doubt that all of these were once encased then removed.

    Im not too sure about broadstruck, Ive never really seen a good example. But to me these look more like coins that were not collared when struck. With no collar, the rim can squish outwards.

    What is the rim like??? Is it squared off, is it rounded???


    By the way Jack. 100 bags of wheats, to me that sounds like you are living the good life. I just dont see what kind of life you could hope for next year thats better than having 100 bags to search. Although a year in between might save you from back, neck and eye problems. And, I guess you would be a bit less likely to go mad.
     
  8. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    Here's a centered broadstrike. Without the collar, the planchet spreads out unimpeded upon striking.

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  9. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    I have quite a few Off-Center Broadstrikes and they do not resemble the 1958-D Cents that Jack posted! I also have a 1930-P Lincoln Cent that was encased and it is exactly identical to the two 1958-D Cents posted (i.e. somewhat Off-Center, a rim outside of the normal rim and the normal rim pressed inwards and in some areas...against the lettering. See the pictures in the C.T. linked topic below.

    http://www.cointalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8154


    Frank
     
  10. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    YES !!
    I have an ANACS 1926-S cent, " removed from encasement " slab, it is identical to these. Thanks folks !!! Off to my show.
     
  11. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    The first two are partial collar strikes I think if you check the rim see if it has the appearence of a railroad rim k. the last three look like lamination errors.Here's and old coin that is a partial collar strike


    Jazzcoins Joe
     

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  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Almost all encased coins are common date coins, and they ARE worth more out of the encasement. . . .if you are planning to spend them, and a lot of people do.. Why else would you take them out of the encasement? To either spend them or sell them as some rare error. And it DOES happen because sometimes part of the design of the encasement gets stamped in the rim of the cent and I have seen plenty of pieces like that.
     
  13. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I never new these coins exsisted encased coins until now. here's a pic of an encased coin >they are encased coins alright.
    jazzcoins Joe
     

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  14. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Coins were removed from encasements all the time , many years ago. They were not collectibles in the 50s and 60s, for example. Many people removed the coins from the encasements and just scrapped the aluminum. Also, coins were placed in the encasements before the outer rings of the encasements were struck. Depending upon the original source of the cents, they may have been removed from encasements if the striking of the encasement itself was poor.

    Common dates were encased all the time.

    These absolutely have the look of having been removed from encasements.

    To say "Im no error expert but these were never encased then removed." says it all. How can you know what happened if this statement, that you made, is the first one in your post?

    Some of us have seen hundreds of these. Some of us have seen them immediately after they were removed from encasements:)

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  15. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Bill I thought they were partial collar strikes,but until I did some research on encased coins there's no doubt that they are. Thanks I never heard of these coins before no Knowledge of them. Here's some examples of encased coins

    Jazzcoins Joe
     

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  16. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi jazcoins,

    Yep, There they are...that's a nice group of pictures.

    Thanks,
    Bill
     
  17. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I have a question for you, Is there any value on these ? I would think there worth something if you keep them in the casing they seem to be collectables to some people .

    I went to a couple of web sites and some could be worth from !(10 dollars to a hundred dollars depending on what they are in the casing ).

    When you take them out of the casing are they worth something. ? I think I have one of these .but never bothered to do any research on it i thought it was some novelty coin.

    I don't know if i should take it out of the casing or not. I know it's not considered any error coin ,but you propbably could sell it on ebay as an error to som ebody ,but i will never do that. I hate Ebay for some of the coins they sell on there to coin people that have no knowledge of what there buying con artists

    Jazzcoins Joe
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    In the encasement they have the possibility of being worth a small amount as a novelty r even a collectible. But take the coin out of the encasement and the outer ring is pretty much worthless and the coin, which is usually common, is just a damaged common coin usually worth just face value. (So they get sold as "rare valuable errors" on eBay.) So my advice is to leave them in the encasement.
     
  19. u4ia

    u4ia Member

    jazzcoins:
    Are those yours, or just a picture you found? I really like that Knights templar one!
     
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