1909 s vdb

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by trmullins, Nov 29, 2008.

  1. trmullins

    trmullins New Member

    I just got back into coins after about 20 years and was going through some of my stuff and fround a 1909s vdb but it looks like someone tryied to make a ring out of it at some time what sould I do? Is it still worth anything?:loud:
     
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  3. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Welcome to CT , really can't tell without a picture .
    rzage
     
  4. trmullins

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  5. trmullins

    trmullins New Member

    hope this will help this is all i got right now
     

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  6. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    The condition of the coin is hard to tell from the small photos, but it appears there are solder spots on the back, but the obverse front seems to be relatively sound. It would be classified as "damaged removed from jewelry" if certified genuine. And yes, as a key coin, it will be worth some money even in that condition. How much you probably wonder.....you would have to watch ebay for similar coins to have an idea.

    Jim
     
  7. trmullins

    trmullins New Member

    thanks alot Jim and I think that it is solder marks I am going to have someone look at for me and dont worry meds aint all bad
     
  8. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    TR,

    Let them look at it, but unless they are big time experts in removing such, don't let them touch it! It is many time harder ~close to impossible even for an expert~ to remove it without making it worse, than to put it there originally. Many handymen or amateur jewelers will try it, and spread it all over, and may change the color/tone of the obverse doing it.


    Oh, Welcome to the Forums!
    Jim
     
  9. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    ANACS or ICG would certify your coin. If you do sell it on ebay, I would recommend you have it certified first. It would definitely sell for several hundred dollars if certified as genuine.
     
  10. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    He can have it conserved and NCG

    Ruben
     
  11. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    The best you could hope for would be an NCS slab. NCS can't restore coins that are damaged so they will go into a NGC slab.
     
  12. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    What he said. My idea is to conserve the coin. They might be able to do something with the solder?

    Ruben
     
  13. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I agree. I would probably try NCS for that same reason. I'm not sure if they could clean it up...but if anyone can, it's them. Regardless, it has to make the coin worth more as it would have better eye appeal without the solder and be slabbed as authentic.
     
  14. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    It would be a nice whole filler at least.
     
  15. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    Not a science major here and don't feel like looking this up. What is the melt point of solder and a Cent?

    I would certainly send that one in to NCS and see what they have to say about it. Authenticate it first, then decide on a course of action to remove the solder. The pictures are to small for me to discern the grade or even a clue as to the authenticity of the coin.

    Does give me an idea on what to do with my FAKE 1909SVDB though.
     
  16. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Solder is a generic term, but its melting point is generally between 100 and 500 C. Copper is 1084 C.
     
  17. Magman

    Magman U.S. Money Collector

    yup.
    but the problem is smearing the solder all over the cent. lol
     
  18. trmullins

    trmullins New Member

    I have took it to some dealers and the most they offered was $600.00 so I still have the coin they have told me that the coin was real and it has been cleaned and all of them has had there opinion on how to get the solder off the coin but since reading your post I will contact ncs and talk to them. Thanks all for the help
     
  19. johnny54321

    johnny54321 aspiring numismatist

    $600?? That seems pretty generous to me from a dealer for an svdb that had solder damage. I probably would have taken it and put that money towards a nice problem free one.
     
  20. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    I am sorry that I am weighing in on this topic so late! I had meant to make a post but I have had a lot of computer issues and have not had much time to get online.

    There is a Copper weave (mesh) product called Solder Wick that many Electricians and even some Plumbers use to remove solder from Copper wires and pipes. I have seen many an Electrician and Plumber remove Solder from Copper wires or pipes with barely a trace left and in some cases, the solder was removed entirely. Since the Solder Wick will lay on top of the coin and heat is only applied to the Solder Wick, I believe that a really good Electrician could remove all or nearly all of the solder without damaging the coin. As a test run, I would have the Electrician put a couple of beads of solder on a few Wheat cents that are in fairly bad shape, then use the Copper Wick to remove them to see what the outcome is. It is highly likely that the coin's surface where the solder currently resides, will have a different color than the rest of the coin due to the soldering job and from the solder being in place for so long. However, a couple of spots that are different in color is much better than a couple of blobs of solder! I would then send the coin to ANACS for certification and grading before selling the coin. IMHO, you can then get a much higher price for the coin than the price offered by the Dealer!


    Frank
     
  21. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    I'd take the $600 and run !!!!! That is a more than fair offer .
     
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