Hi everyone I posted this last night in the Coin Roll Hunting but post this here now.

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Kristymarie0816, Aug 21, 2020.

  1. Kristymarie0816

    Kristymarie0816 Active Member

    Hi everyone I posted these pictures last name in the Coin Roll hunting forum, but I am posting here in the Error forum, but I hope everyone is doing well and staying safe. But I found this Flying Eagle Cent coin roll hunting a year ago 2019 in February I was holy wow, could not believe it, but I know the coin is not in great shape but for being from 1856-1858 it is hard to find a coin especially a penny, nickel, dime quarter in perfect shape because they were used so much. But this coin I put in a protective case.

    But I am wondering could this Flying Eagle cent reverse be upside down because when I have it the way it the right way you would see the front of the coin, and then you turn it around the coin looks like it is upside down. Here is a picture of the front and back.

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    [​IMG] So when you are looking at the front of the coin the date would be at the bottom of the Flying Eagle cent, even through my digital microscope you can not really see a date but on certain lighting you can see a very very light 185 but that is about it. But when I have the coin the right way I turn it around everything seems to look like it is upside down the wreath, the Cent One is first instead of One Cent. I am not an expert in Flying Eagle Cents. So I thank anyone who comments. I appreciate it.
     
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  3. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    From your description I can't really work out what you see.
    The obverse (pic 1) is oriented correctly, united left and America right and eagle in flight. When you turn it vertically, as it is in coin alignment, you will see what is in foto 2.
    Had a late night last night here in Spain so maybe wait for other members with clearer heads to see this post
    EDIT Show the coin oriented as in foto 1 with the reverse showing in a mirror and try to get as good a foto as you can
     
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  4. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    Medallic orientation (or medal alignment, or variations of these) derives its name from medals tagged to a uniform. For a medal to display properly, when the obverse of the medal is right side up, a left or right turn must show the reverse also to be right side up.

    Coin Orientation when the obverse of a coin is right side up, a left or right turn shows the reverse image to be upside down, then the coin has 'coin orientation'.

    Upside down eagle, would be a flying eagle cent with medal orientation when it should have coin orientation.
     
  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The US Mint produces their coinage in "Coin Turn" making the reverse upside down when the obverse is right side up. Many other countries use "Medal Turn" making both sides oriented the same way. ~ Chris
     
  6. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Your coin is not an error. To my knowledge, there has never been an orientation error in the production of business strike coins. Do the following with your coin: Place the coin on a flat surface with the reverse showing

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    Next, turn coin from top to bottom and the result will be
    upload_2020-8-21_8-54-18.png
    "Coin Turn or coin alignment" which is correct.
     
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  7. Kristymarie0816

    Kristymarie0816 Active Member

    Ok thank you very much everyone who commented. I appreciate it.
     
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  8. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Never heard of anyone finding an FE in a roll. Nice find.
    It's not an 1856. It's 100% that it is 1857 or 1858. With a bright light and
    magnification, and tilting the coin around, you could probably make out the last digit.
     
  9. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    So, did you do as I suggested and if yes, what was the outcome?
     
  10. John Wright

    John Wright Well-Known Member

    So you found this in a current cent-roll? The first one I bought looked about like yours -- cost me 5c seventy years ago. They go more today. Here's what the original design for US cents of 1857-1858 look like (plus the 'samples' of 1856).
    1857 3 Small Cnt Nikl Pf66 PCGS.jpg
     
  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I thought there were plenty of "rotated" reverse errors...
     
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  12. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    180 degrees? Coin alignment vs. Medal alignment?
     
  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    yup, they carry a premium but are not unknown or exceedingly rare. Perhaps @paddyman98 or @Insider could comment
     
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  14. Insider

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    Robert Ransom, posted: "Your coin is not an error. To my knowledge, there has never been an orientation error in the production of business strike coins."

    Check this out: http://rotateddies.50webs.com/census.htm
     
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  15. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    Well holey moley! I guess this shows how much I have been out of touch. I'll be durndled!
     
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  16. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Amazing what you can learn. My gast has never been so flabbered
     
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