How many does it take

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Hazmatt, Aug 21, 2020.

  1. Hazmatt

    Hazmatt Active Member

    How many coins with the same oddities does it take before one would call it a variety
     
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  3. paddyman98

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  4. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    Maybe 3 I dunno.
     
  5. expat

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  6. cpm9ball

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    I don't think there is any set number. The coin below was originally listed as an Error (Die Gouge), but it took 7 years before it was changed to a Variety (Die Dent) and listed in the Cherrypickers Guide with only 12 known.

    2005-S KS Silver SQ.JPG
     
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  7. Robert Ransom

    Robert Ransom Well-Known Member

    The decision is in the minds of the coin guru's
     
  8. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    so, how much is that 2005 Kansas worth? I might have to go cherry pick some sets!
     
  9. Hazmatt

    Hazmatt Active Member

    So who decides Wexler, PCGS, who?
     
  10. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    It's up to the catalogers. In general it's a variety (die variety) if it's on the die, like a die gouge, die dent, doubled die, repunched mint mark, or wrong die. And it's an error (minting error) if it's not on the die but a problem in the minting routine. Like a brockage, misaligned die, die break, double struck or rotated.

    What I'm not real clear on is a die clash and where that falls. I know left over polishing lines from removing a clash would be considered a variety because you can use it to identify a die or die pair, like in Morgan or peace dollar VAMs.

    As far as die gouge or die dent, there's always been some confusion in the hobby correctly identifying one from the other. A die gouge is usually more like a really deep die scratch or a "cut" that's incused in the die. A die dent is more like a indention incused in the die. When it's a linear die dent this is where the confusion of whether it's a gouge or a dent appears to happen most of the time.
     
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  11. Hazmatt

    Hazmatt Active Member

    All I know is it's like a bump of extra metal in the hair like a chip out the middle of the die not big but noticeable, almost like extra hair
     
  12. expat

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    Post clear full size images so we can see what you are describing
     
  13. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    The answer is "one". A die variety is defined by its etiology (manner of formation), not its abundance.
     
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