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  1. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I can manipulate the image enough to see that it is reverse up and FOR A, but the focus fades before DOLLAR and the leaf.
     
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  3. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I sent in the probable S-121a Die State I. Here is their opinion:

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  4. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Ouch. That's worse than unattributable.
     
  5. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

  6. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

  7. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    the edge looked lettered. I concur with S-77 though. I just asked the seller

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  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Maybe, maybe not.

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  9. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

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  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    S-19b, head of 1793, edge of 1794. Rarity 4. I was pleasantly surprised by its in-hand appearance.

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  11. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I almost suspected there was more there with better photos. The seller's photos were blurry and detail was still detectable. It's a little backward with G towards the core and fr/ag at the perimeter. But reverse dentils are strong too. It's certainly a mixed bag of strength and weakness.

    I'd still like to see a photo of the leaf.

    I suspect you'll do well on this one.
     
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  12. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I have a suspicion that they continued using the castaining machine for a short time after converting to the 168 grain standard and initially removing the lettering. These squared up edges almost all have flat surfaces and incusions or grip marks which are easily confused with remnants of lettering.

    After a short while, it appears they discontinued it's use on copper coins in favor of the more rounded edges.
     
  13. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    I went to the Indianapolis coin show this morning and picked this beautiful lady out of the half price box. It’s struck of a thick planchette with indents of some kind. I can’t get a good photo of the edge. 2014F12F-9683-43B3-8271-A2141D45BA87.jpeg C99DF331-4C47-4C89-AC3E-0B4F724C999D.jpeg 9DD8EF71-B44D-4E23-8D85-8D0593093856.jpeg
     
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  14. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Definitely the S-261 with the large Obverse die crack.
    Without a weight different from 10.5g to 10.7g or better photos showing a mint edge (foreign planchet?), I'd have to suspect edges were damaged post mint. Still nice details out of a half price box.
     
  15. Moekeever

    Moekeever Well-Known Member

    My scale reads 11.0 g

    looking at the edge closer, I agree it’s PMD.
     
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  16. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    That's a little overweight, but within tolerances.
     
  17. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Here thou goeth:

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    that struck me as weird. It looks strike related because that area of the reverse is just blank. No traces of the lettering despite a bold wreath and rims. It isn’t corroded away either. Maybe struck through grease or misaligned die?

    I have her at VG details. The obverse looks closer to F/VF
     
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  18. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Excellent edge shot. A Strong edge. It does look like several 19bs have that letter weakness while stronger at the core and dentils. Very unusual.

    I'm very happy for you.
     
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  19. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I'd like to ask a personal favor. This was lost (not stolen) when I lost a change pouch. If you see it anywhere, I'd like to repurchase it.

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    It's the downside of carrying around a pocket piece.
     
  20. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I can't make up my mind which Photo to keep.

    Seller's with my Album Treatment
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    or my own.
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    I'm leaning towards the sellers.
     
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  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Hard to say, his shows the surface strike through and clash better, but yours is focused better.
     
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