1875 20 Cent - damage or error?

I'm not looking for confirmation of what I can see (or may be convincing myself I can see). As I posted in my last comment, I'm asking error collectors for their input on which slabbing services offer the best service / best service for their cost. While I respectfully do see that several comments have already been made labeling this as PMD, opinions based on photos are worth their weight in gold (or maybe a slight bit more). And the label of PMD is thrown around a lot because it's true the majority of the time.

I think it's still worth putting this coin the hands of an error expert, but have not submitted for error grading myself. Does anyone have experience on that which they'd care to share?

 

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If you submit to any TPG and they determine that's it's PMD, you'll receive the coin back in a plastic bag and they keep your money.

 

GeorgeM, posted: "I'm not looking for confirmation of what I can see (or may be convincing myself I can see). As I posted in my last comment, I'm asking error collectors for their input on which slabbing services offer the best service / best service for their cost."

Send your coin to ANACS. Cheap, fast and good authenticators.

"While I respectfully do see that several comments have already been made labeling this as PMD, opinions based on photos are worth their weight in gold (or maybe a slight bit more). And the label of PMD is thrown around a lot because it's true the majority of the time."

While most are not "error experts," the members here are experienced collectors who have seen a lot. They are trying to help you and save you time and money. Many of them run into folks who don't accept the obvious yet they don't give up trying to help. I've been looking at coins at high power for many years; yet I was "mistaken" by your coin at first because I didn't magnify the image. I am solidly in the PMD camp. However, I was in your shoes sixty years ago and one thing I learned quickly was not to trust the word of anyone. Listen to everything so you can learn; but verify!

"I think it's still worth putting this coin the hands of an error expert, but have not submitted for error grading myself. Does anyone have experience on that which they'd care to share?"

You have been given $$$$$$ worth of experience already and choose to ignore it. I'm surprised folks are still posting in this discussion as there is NOTHING left to add!

Collecting Nut, posted: "If you submit to any TPG and they determine that's it's PMD, you'll receive the coin back in a plastic bag and they keep your money."

AFAIK, this is no longer correct. The TPGS will keep the money and slab the coin as "damaged."

 

Thanks @Insider as that's a new one on me. I've never seen nor heard of a slabbed damaged coin but then, I don't look for them as I have zero interest in that type of slabbed coin.

 

The TPGs did not slab genuine problem coins several years ago, but they do now. PCGS used to use a numbered code system. I think the use words now. NGC used to slab problem coins in NCS slabs that had translucent rather white inserts. Now the problem coins go into NGC holders that marked as such.

 

They still use the number code, the code in found in the number between the coin series number, and the serial number. In the location where the numeric grade normally is.

 

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. There's a lot about slabbing that you don't know if you don't ask - and there are certainly more painful/expensive ways to find out the same thing.

 

ICG is also excellent at authentication and relatively inexpensive.

 

How are they with error coins? Do they have an additional surcharge for checking for errors? And what's their turnaround time?

I've only slabbed with ANACs before, and don't know what their error slabbing process is like.

 

This IS NOT an error coin. If you send it in thinking you are going to get that, you are wasting your money, but I guess there is no use trying to stop you.

 

GeorgeM, posted: "How are they with error coins? Do they have an additional surcharge for checking for errors? And what's their turnaround time?

I've only slabbed with ANACs before, and don't know what their error slabbing process is like."

AFAIK, the process for checking error coins is basically the same for all for major grading services. The main difference is the cost and turnaround time. The top two services may not wish to be bothered with minor errors and probably would not list something like a small die break or tiny strike thru. When there is something major on a coin - like those deep gashes, you may not need to tell them what to look for but you'll probably need to use the error tier.

I will suggest again that you send it to ANACS since you already do business with them. They may give you a "break."