Susan B Anthony dollar

I'm looking for a nice uncirculated Susan B Anthony 1979 wide rim dollar.
I can't believe this one!
https://www.coinworld.com/news/prec...ells-for-a-little-more-than-two-thousand.html

Just because it's MS67 it skyrockets to 3 grand?! Seriously?
I guess some people care a lot more than I do about all the tiny slicing and dicing of MS grades. I'm fine with uncirculated, BU, Gem BU, and I guess maybe Choice Gem BU. All the MS's are too fine a distinction for me.

L&C has a MS64 for $29 that I may go for. Not certified, and no photo on the website, so I wrote for a photo. They have a certified MS64 for $50. Isn't that a HUGE premium for the same grade, just because it's certified?

 

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Certified and attributed. Have you checked the Census for both PCGS and NGC? Maybe that is why. ~ Chris

 

Certified and slabbed..... That costs money. You should expect this.

 

Certified gives assurance of the grade. Can you define attributed here? Is that assurance that it is real, not counterfeit?

 

PCGS prices a SBA dollar graded MS64 at $35. L & C can be high on their prices on some items. Wide rims are for cherrypicking. There should be more than enough raw 1979 SBA wide rims to cherrypick one alot cheaper. After 1979, all SBA dollars come with wide rims.

Attributed would be the label saying the coin is a wide rim(near date) 1979 SBA. Counterfeiters would fake the wide rim also. I don't recall any counterfeit SBA dollars. Most Americans don't even know there was a SBA dollar.

Certified is just that. The coin is certified to be the real deal. Grading is the part that is subjective.

 

I've searched other dealers and ebay. I'm not finding anything in that grade that is cheaper than the $29 raw coin L&C is selling. I will look once more and then buy that one I think

 

Modern coins are going to be tough to locate through a on-line dealer. Most of the time there just isn't any money in modern coins or the people to shell out the big bucks for something that can be found in circulation.

I would try narrowing your search criteria on eBay to try and cherrypick one. I promise you will get much more satisfaction from cherrypicking one than out right buying it. NGC will not attribute this variety without being paid to do so. Look through their slabs also.

I have found a few items to cherrypick on eBay. It just takes time and a lot of searching. Patience. I have been searching for a 1966 SMS no designer initials Kennedy half dollar for about 18 months. I bought one that I thought was it, even graded. But, it still faintly had the initials. My search continues. Wait until you try to find coins by die variety. That can be frustrating. It will make you want to buy it already attributed.

 

I don't think finding one certified MS67 is all that easy. For example, NGC lists just 57 certified MS67 and their price guide lists it at $1,000. While I don't necessarily agree with the price, I can certainly understand why it is considerably higher than a raw coin. Business strikes are just not that easy to find in higher grades. ~ Chris

 

I like your thoughts about cherrypicking. Thanks. I will take that under advisement!

 

If you look through L&C's extensive listings you will find that most slabs include the full cost of the TPG's work. I, in particular, stay away from their raw coins as they have a bad habit of listing "Premium Quality" B.U. coins, and more so copper coins listed in red that have been dipped. And they also have a habit of over grading. I know from experience and no longer will do business with them. I also ordered a roll of "Gemmy" (whatever) 90 % silver Kennedy half's that were mostly spotted.

 

Oh, bummer. Here's the one I'm thinking of buying:
https://www.lccoins.com/default/1979-p-susan-b-anthony-dollar-wide-rim-ms64-uncertified.html
Thoughts?

 

It does not look too bad. The hair is a bit weak. Also remember their shipping, which I believe is $7.00. I think, with a little patience you could find one cheaper perhaps on EBAY as long as the pics are clear enough for you to make a informed decision. I think I paid $18.00 for mine in a similar condition. The prices on these have not changed much over the years once the novelty wore off.

 

I compared it to the slabbed one they have and the hair looks the same on both. The slabbed is MS64 and the raw one is graded as that also. I couldn't detect much difference between the two.

When I went to get the shipping amount it was $0.

 

They might be running a special on shipping, they sometimes do. I'm not an expert on these but the weak hair might have been for weak strikes on these in this condition. The TPG's do allow for variances on certain coins. But if you like it, then by all means do not let me discourage you. If it ends up not being as pictured you always have a return privledge.

 

I still don't get that an MS67 would sell for $3000. Here is an MS66 for $80. What a steal!!! <grin>
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-P-WID...088895?hash=item2aecd639bf:g:bzcAAOSw5gBfC1wL

 

Maybe someone here could provide population reports from NGC & PCGS. There might be a clue within these.

 

I should learn how to get those reports

 

This is incorrect, Wide Rim 1979 SBA are an automatic designation at all of the TPGs.

 

Extremely hard to find in 67 and only one 67+ at PCGS which is the highest graded. 66s aren't exactly easy to find either and would be more expensive if the series was more popular

https://www.pcgs.com/pop/detail/susan-b-anthony-dollar-1979-1999/747

 

How much does the population matter? Look at the low MS grades - rare!