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Yes on the bean.

 

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I'll do the reveal tomorrow morning to give others who haven't responded a last chance.

 

Perhaps it's the photo, but I don't see cameo features, so I'll say no bean.

 

I'll say no to the bean.

 

Here's the reveal. The 3CN got a green bean. I think this is a case where photos are deceiving as it makes the coin look duller and more grainy than in hand. This is the first 3CN posted in this thread as most coins have been silver and gold. My collection tends to skew heavily towards copper and nickel which may explain some of my horrible track record on silver and gold coins. The other is that maybe I'm not too bright!

 

@wxcoin your track record is perfectly respectable and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Proof coins are harder to judge from photos and some (as seen here) appear to have haze or grainy surfaces when it's not there in hand.

 

Rd. 1: 1921 MS 65 Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 2: 1835 AU 50 Green CAC 50c--> Yes: 2 vs No: 8

Rd. 3: 1939-S Oregon MS 65 Gold CAC 50c--> Yes: 10 (8 Green and 2 Gold) vs No: 0

Rd. 4: 1838 AU 58 Green CAC (Gold $5)--> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 5: 1908 MS 63 Green CAC (Gold $20)—> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

Rd. 6: 1885-CC MS 63 PL Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 8 vs No: 1

Rd. 7: 1946-S MS 66 Green CAC Walker 50c--> Yes: 7 (6 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

Rd. 8: 1885-S MS 62 NOT CAC Morgan--> Yes: 5 (4 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

Rd. 9: 1830 EF 45 UNKNOWN CAC 50c--> Yes: 10 vs No: 1

Rd. 10*: 1899 MS 65 BN UNKNOWN CAC 1c--> Yes: 4 vs No: 5

Rd. 11: 1942 MS 65 Gold CAC 50c--> Yes: 4 (4 Green and 0 Gold) vs No: 2

Rd. 12: 1940-D MS 67 Star UNKNOWN CAC 10c--> Yes: 3 vs No: 4

Rd. 13*: 1884-O MS 61 Gold CAC $1--> Yes: 9 (4 Green and 5 Gold) vs No: 0

Rd. 14: 1827 AU 55 CAC 10c--> Yes: 1 vs No: 7

Rd. 15: 1851 MS 66 CAC 1c--> Yes: 5 vs No: 4

Rd. 16: 1919-S MS 65 Green CAC 10c--> Yes: 12 (11 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 0

Rd. 17: 1922 MS 65 NOT CAC Peace $1--> Yes: 10 vs No: 1

Rd. 18: 1851 Au 58+ CAC 1/2C--> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

Rd. 19: 1839-O AU 53 NO CAC 50c--> Yes: 6 (5 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 3

Rd. 20: 1920 MS 65 NO CAC 25c--> Yes: 4 vs No: 6

Rd. 21: 1862 PF 64 CAC H10c--> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

Rd. 22: 1869 PF 63 Gold CAC 10c--> Yes: 7 (5 Green and 2 Gold) vs No: 0

Rd. 23: 1834 XF 45 CAC $5--> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Rd. 24: 1835 XF 40 CAC 25c--> Yes: 8 (7 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 2

Rd. 25: 1876 MS 62 Not CAC 50c--> Yes: 7 (6 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

Rd. 26: 1853 MS 64 Not CAC 10c--> Yes: 7 vs No: 0

Rd. 27: 1913 MS 62 CAC 2.5 Gold--> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 28: 1835 AU 58 CAC 10c--> Yes: 3 vs No: 7

Rd. 29: 1908-S MS 64 CAC 1c--> Yes: 9 vs No: 2

Rd. 30: 1913-D MS 66+ CAC 5c--> Yes: 10 vs No: 0

Rd. 31: 1829 AU 55 NOT CAC 5c--> Yes: 11 vs No: 1

Rd. 32: 1851 MS 61 CAC 2.5 Gold--> Yes: 4 (3 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 2

Rd. 33: 1936-D MS 66 GOLD CAC 5c--> Yes: 3 (3 Green) vs No: 2

Rd. 34: 1941-S AU 55 NOT CAC 10c--> Yes: 11 (2 Green and 9 Gold) vs No: 0

Rd. 35: 1924 MS 66 CAC 25c--> Yes: 3 vs No: 4

Rd. 36: 1936-D MS 67 Texas UNKNOWN CAC 50c--> Yes: 8 vs No: 1

Rd. 37: 1928 MS 66 Oregon UNKNOWN CAC 50c--> Yes: 9 vs No: 0

Rd. 38: 1893 MS 64 Isabella CAC 25c--> Yes: 2 vs No: 9

Rd. 39: 1820 AU 58 CAC 10c--> Yes: 3 vs No: 7

Rd. 40: 1881-S MS 65 CAC $1--> Yes: 7 (3 Green and 4 Gold) vs No: 0

Rd. 41: 1940 PR 66 CAC 50c--> Yes: 7 vs No: 0

Rd. 42: 1824 AU 50 CAC 50c--> Yes: 8 vs No: 1

Rd. 43: 1937 Texas MS 66 CAC 50c--> Yes: 5 vs No: 2

Rd. 44: 1903 PR 63 NOT CAC 50c--> Yes: 9 vs No: 1

Rd. 45: 1857 MS 64 CAC 10c--> Yes: 2 vs No: 6

Rd. 46: 1828 MS 62 CAC 10c--> Yes: 8 vs No: 1

Rd. 47: 1958 MS 67 FBL CAC 50c--> Yes: 1 vs No: 9

Rd. 48: 1902 PR 64 NOT CAC 50c--> Yes: 3 vs No: 4

Rd. 49: 1832 AU 58 CAC 1/2c--> Yes: 5 (1 gold) vs No: 4

Rd. 50: 1902 PF 61 CAC 25c--> Yes: 4 vs No: 2

Rd. 51: 1953-D MS 66+ FBL CAC 50c--> Yes: 3 vs No: 4

Rd. 52: 1880 MS 64 CAC $1--> Yes: 3 vs No: 2

Rd. 53: 1882-CC MS 62 CAC $1--> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

Rd. 54: 1892 MS 64 Columbian CAC 50c--> Yes: 5 vs No: 0

Rd. 55: 1895-O VF 20 CAC $1--> Yes: 1 vs No: 6

Rd. 56: 1880-O MS 64 Not CAC $1--> Yes: 11 vs No: 0

Rd. 57: 1954 PF 65 CAM Gold CAC 50c--> Yes: 7 (7 Green and 0 Gold) vs No: 1

Rd. 58: 1879-S MS 65 CAC $1--> Yes: 5 vs No: 2

Rd. 59: 1949 MS 66+ FBL CAC 50c--> Yes: 3 vs No: 5

Rd. 60: 1880-S MS 66 PL Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 5 vs No: 7

Rd. 61: 1936 MS 67+ Green CAC York 50c--> Yes: 4 vs No: 5

Rd. 62: 1823/2 AU 58 CAC 10c--> Yes: 6 vs No: 3

Rd. 63: 1920 MS 65 CAC Pilgrim 50c--> Yes: 7 vs No: 4

Rd. 64: 1901/0-S XF 45 GOLD CAC Gold $5--> Yes: 7 (5 Green and 2 Gold) vs No: 2

Rd. 65: 1937-D Texas MS 66 CAC 50c--> Yes: 12 vs No: 1

Rd. 66: 1829 AU 55 CAC 50c--> Yes: 8 vs No: 2

Rd. 67: 1859 PR 62 Gold CAC H10c--> Yes: 7 (6 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

Rd. 68: 1883-O MS 62 CAC $1--> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Rd. 69: 1818 AU 50 NOT CAC 50c--> Yes: 10 vs No: 1

Rd. 70: 1828 F 12 NOT CAC 25c--> Yes: 7 vs No: 1

Rd. 71: 1882-S MS 67 Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 4 vs No: 2

Rd. 72: 1879 PR 65 CAM Green CAC 3CN--> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Green CAC on coin and deserves it: 27
Green CAC on coin and doesn't deserve it: 19
Gold CAC on coin and deserves it: 1
Gold CAC on coin but should only be Green: 7
Gold CAC on coin but should not sticker:
Failed to sticker but deserves a sticker: 11
Failed to sticker and should not sticker: 2
Unknown sticker status and deserves a sticker:3
Unknown sticker status and does not deserve a sticker:2


Note: if we don’t know the status of a coin before the reveal and more people say green CAC for a gold CAC coin, then it will go in the area of “Gold CAC on coin but should only be Green” ....see round 3 as the example case

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Rd. 10 was 4-4...I interpreted that CircCam would consider it a no (based on a similar example), which swayed the overall vote to a lean towards no.
Rd. 13 was tied between green and gold at 4-4...I interpreted that geekpryde would consider it a gold

 

Floor is open...

 

Since this thread has stalled I will try to start it up again.

NGC XF40 1809 (XXX). Green, Gold or no?



jom

 

Pretty coin with nice toning. It looks more AU to me so I'll go gold.

 

Not sure it's 100% original, but I'll say green.

 

Thanks for bringing the thread back @jom

I like this one but something about it makes me think there is an issue (maybe lack of originality as previously mentioned).

I will say No sticker

 

My sniffer also detects something hinky, though I can not articulate what. No Sticker!

 

An old cleaning and nicely retoned. Graded 40 is conservative. I would say a gold bean except for the old cleaning so I'll say it got a green bean.

 

No CAC for me. Still a nice coin though. Some of the black crud and what appears as an old cleaning and retoned is what says no for me. I don’t think they would consider it to have original skin.

This is a great example showing luster in the protected areas at the XF grade since those areas of luster have also toned up. It really shows that aspect well.

 

I'll guess no bean - the toning looks too good to be natural.

 

Green CAC for 1809 50c. Like overall look and attractive toning.

 

View attachment 1162886 View attachment 1162887 Haven't posted much, but I find this topic interesting. I hope that the photos are clear enough. This was sent to CAC not too long ago. What do you think the results were? Thx

 

Here's another. Pl obv

 

I'll go with green on the 1809.