A phone call to Littleton Coin Company.

The "new shower curtain smell" does exist and is indicative of PVC. And it's toxic.


That ‘new shower curtain smell’ gives off toxic chemicals, study says.

New Car or Shower Curtain Smell? The Smell of PVC.

 

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This is a truly classic thread!

I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or take a shower!

No wait! I'll go outside and sit in my car and soak up that "new car smell"!

 

Now everyone, "Hit the showers!"

 

Right - I noticed that smell the first time I grabbed some soft vinyl flips and tossed them back onto the rack. You also might need to pick a cheap one at walmart to get that smell - I know my $10 ones had that smell.

 

Stainless,

First mistake. You traded $40 worth of coins for an album that lists at $40 from Littleton? Littleton is overpriced to begin with so you're already losing.

Second mistake. You expected an informed answer. Do you know how BIG Littleton is? Good chance you were just talking to someone that has very little knowledge of coins or proper storage. You know, like reading it off a computer screen. How else would they know the product so fast?

Littleton is Littleton my man. They spend huge amounts of money on advertising and I would surmise have a huge base of employees. Good for them. Now do you think they're paying "top dollar" to all of those employees for their vast knowledge?
I sincerely doubt it.

Years ago I bought the "limit" of Silver Eagles from them because, hey they WERE cheap (magazine add). Then I got the "on approval" routine. They sent me a different Silver Eagle that was grades as MS63 and WAY over priced.
Properly graded I'm sure but my question to them was what roll of Silver Eagles have you ever seen that DIDN'T contain at least MS63 coins?
Got my cheapies and they never bothered me again.

I will give Littleton credit on one thing. They do tend to grade properly. They also pay top dollar when they are looking for something. What they are looking for will be in the next "set" offered in a magazine or Sunday paper supplement.

We buy stuff at the shop. Occasionally it's in Littleton holders. We buy it for way less than someone paid for it. Guess what happens 99% of the time. We cut it out and throw the holder away.

Bottom line here my friend is that Littleton did not rip you off. You ripped yourself off. Keep the binder and informative inserts. Throw the rest away and build your own album.

 

Here is a way to test for PVC if anyone is curious, but don't burn down the house trying it.

Heat the end of a copper coat hanger over an open flame on a stove. While the coat hanger is hot, touch the questionable plastic with the hanger to obtain a small sample of the plastic. Once again place the coat hanger over the flame.

If the flame turns blue, the plastic is safe.

If the flame turns green, the plastic contains PVC.

 

doesnt copper burn green though

 

Okay, I have a question though? Is this album good to use or not? I've read about good PVC, and bad PVC (which makes sense to me), I just want to know is this album a good or not?

Phoenix

 

smell

this red velvet cake i just ate from my paper plate was very good.

 

Again, just more nonsence. Again, PVC is a rigid, covalent, non deteriorating substance and has no odor by itself. In order for any substance to have an odor some type of gass material must be given off or there would be nothing. PVC is just Carbon, Hydrogen and Chlorine in a non deteriorating compound. So just what could you be smelling? Do you smell Carbon? Do you smell Hydrogen? Do you smell Chlorine?
Many articles are written by people that just know nothing but like the notariety or possibly they really think they know something so they publish it.
I always like the words "study says". Just who made the study. Probably some kids trying for a better grade in school so they interview all the other kids.

 

NOOOO! Don't do that you may turn green from all the PVC.

 

And if the coat hanger is coated with something to protect it from the elements since it is Copper, then what?

 

Actually in summation, everything clembo said.

 

Now we are back to my point way back at the beginning. The problem is not the PVC. It is the plasticizer used in most PVC materials. The plasticizer is not "a rigid, covalent, non deteriorating substance". It does leach out, it does degrade, and it does smell. Oh, and it does affect coins.

 

You use it for a coat hanger.

 

Polyvinyl is a different thing. There is new soft plastic, polybags, which are not PVC and not harmful. Are you telling me that the new plastic flips are still not made of archival material?

Ruben