Serious doubling 1921 Morgan

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  1. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

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    Here is a start

    Please tell me what you think of this reverse. I will get more photos up later.

    Thanks ~ Darryl
     
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  3. Jim M

    Jim M Ride it like ya stole it

    No page found Darryl.
     
  4. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Was afraid of that, cannot seem to go the links worked out using my blackberry :(

    Will fix when I get home. Mean while if you want to look at it just go to photobucket and search for uss656 and it will be the first image.

    Thank You Jim

    Best regards Darryl
     
  5. phreebsd

    phreebsd Junior Member

    i posted the pic for you

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  6. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    sorry but i don't see any doubling pic is to dark need better pics to determine this
    Jazzcoins joe
     
  7. der_meister77

    der_meister77 Senior Member

    Serious doubling? I can't see anything....
     
  8. coincrusader

    coincrusader New Member

    sorry I dont see doubling at all either
     
  9. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    I edited the photos in the beginning - I cannot believe you cannot see the areas I have marked???
     
  10. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Thank you :)
     
  11. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    I did make out some doubling when i zoomed in, no double die it's machine doubling whatever areas i made out. i don't know if it's a vam but it can be they do consider MD to be a vam i think.

    jazzcoins joe:whistle:
     
  12. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Darryl,

    I see the areas you put in red,looks very possible on some letters, but it is still a little fuzzy for me to tell. That area is UNITED STATES seems more likely. I really can't tell about the IGWT . Here is the VAMs page for 1921P. Former VAM2 ( according to book) was a doubled reverse, but it was incorporated into VAM 1, so you might start there. MD is not considered a separate VAM, but it can occur on a VAM.

    http://www.vamworld.com/Morgan+VAMs+By+Date

    Jim
     
  13. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

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  14. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Joe, That is machine doubling OF a VAM 2, not a separate VAM from the Non-MMD VAM2. Any Dollar can have MMD, but that doesn't change the VAM number. VAM 2 is considered the "normal" VAM Die for 1922P Peace, most VAM-2 do not have MMD, a few might.
    http://www.vamworld.com/1922-P+VAMs

    check down the list and you will see the normal VAM 2.

    Jim
     
  15. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Thanks Jim, I put a much better photo up on photobucket which I can link tonight. There is a long die crack across the top of the rev which I have not found yet in the Vam list. The crack starts at the rim above the first T of states and runs to the rim above the right wing tip. This photo shows the doubling better in United/In/Trust/G. These all look more like MD except States which is hard to see with the digital but show up well under the scope. The right side of the letters have a doubling mark which is rounded.

    Thanks again :). Darryl


     
  16. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Here are the updated photos - Thanks.

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  17. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Sorry to say it is machine doubling no value
    Jazzcoins joe:whistle:
     
  18. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Darryl,

    Could you check the coin for 17 berries. It looks like it might be, but I can't tell for sure from the nice photo.
    http://www.vamworld.com/17+berry+reverse

    Also, I can't see the reeding and several of this year have "infrequent " reeding.
    157 reeds instead of normal 189 around edge.

    I am still undecided myself. Can you check the "E" in UNITED to see if it is a flat separation of the middle arm or a rounded doubling there. That seems to be the strongest. :mad:A large number of VAMS for 1921P Morgans

    Jim
     
  19. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    Hi Jim

    Here's a close up of the E in United MD without a doubt I didn't out the reeding. I will check the cherries out too.

    Jazzcoins Joe:thumb:
     

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  20. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Hi Jim,

    Happy Thanksgiving :)

    16 Berries :(


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  21. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    BTW: This dollar has been in this sleeve since the day the owner received it. The Envelope is addressed "Pittsburgh 1, PA" prior to zip codes - how cool... They recently passed and I work with the neice who has been left with the estate. Just trying to make sure she knows what she has. I put the Morgan in an Air-Tite and had her seal it all in plastic.

    Best Regards ~ Darryl

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