ASE AT or NT (Poll)

Is the following ASE AT or NT and why?

 

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If that is AT, I'll take a roll.

 

It screams AT. How did you store it to get that toning?

 

If it is from storage, then it would be NT.

Wouldn't it?

 

What exactly screams AT to you. Just curious.

 

The colors look painted on. The color combination is suspicious. The areas not "painted" aren't toned at all. The coin isn't really old enough to have achieved that sort of toning in my opinion unless helped along. That's why I asked how you stored it to get that toning. I can't think of any natural storage method that would have achieved that particular look so I'm interested in your side of the story. I could be wrong, which is why we're voting in the first place.

 

The higher devices (like the letters) are the same color as the fields. Coins do not tone like that naturally. Look at the "T" in liberty.

 

"IF." That's why I asked.

 

oh, okay, I got it, I think.

 

Dan

The phenomenon that you are using as an indicator of AT works well with bag toned Morgan Dollars. However, I have found that toning that creeps up over the letters and devices is not a good indicator of AT on other series despite what Bob Campbell says. Here is an example of an album toned Jefferson Nickel. Look at the word LIBERTY. The band of pink is clearly in the fields as well as on the lettering.

 

That is one gorgeous, I mean gorgeous coin. Beautiful IMHO, and I would not mind paying extra for it, as long as budget permits of course. However, I do believe that it is AT, from being exposed to certain heat? The pinkish color seems odd, and the reverse looks to much like the obverse, color wise, and the way the toning wraps around the coin. However, I could be very wrong, but I do know that that is a DANG beautiful coin IMO!! :thumb: Is it in your collection? (Thinking back on it now, it could be NT, lol?? )

Phoenix

 

BTW, the above posts had no influence on what I said.

Phoenix

 

I did not store this coin as I just purchased it. However, I do know the storage conditions of the coin over that last few years and can prove it. However, I do not want to divulge that information until the thread has run it's course.

With regards to the color progression, it looks OK to me (yellow-magenta-cyan). Granted the magenta is pink, but that in itself is not that uncommon.

 

Insert toned?

 

I didn't vote one way or another. I'm always skeptical of modern silver toners of that magnitude, as the basic laws of chemistry say it shouldn't happen. But, I've seen enough of my own coins, not all old coins either, that have toned in as much time in proper storage with no artificial help, so I know it's possible. It's really hard to say, other than blatantly guessing, with the above ASE.
Guy~

 

Like Guy, I'm not voting either. I am highly suspicious of the toning and, while I don't want to call it definitely AT, I strongly suspect it is NOT NT for similar reasons as those stated above.

The willingness of some people to pay BIG bucks for coins with "pretty" toning creates a demand that talented coin doctors are all too willing to fill.

 

If I saw that Jefferson raw i would have my doubts. But greater numismatists than me say otherwise.

 

I'm going to say NT on this one. I am by no means an expert on toning, but this just looks real to me. The color's seem to have a natural progression from color to color...by that I mean there is no i immediate lines of color, they seem to blend from one to another. The color's are pretty soft, they aren't booming like you see with many chemically treated coins. Since they progress from the rim, I'd say this toning results from some kind of album storage.

So, I'll say NT on this one...and beautiful toning if you ask me. I'd be proud to have that ASE.

 

Well it doesn't look like someone used the flame thrower (at least to me) so I'll hazard NT.

 

I have to say it again, that coin is GORGEOUS! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Phoenix