Here's an auction for a proof trade dollar graded by NTC. I know that they are bad for over all grading but do you think this coin is real and not fake. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290277135457&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=019
Okay, here's a learning opportunity for me. :loud::secret: Assuming it is genuine, overgraded, and perhaps dipped, what other issues do you see? I would consider a low bid for this if I thought it wasn't counterfeit.
If you look closely not only can you see that it was dipped, you can also see some traces of dip residue. The coin is heavily spotted and those spots stand a good chance of coming back. Also, the coin has had some rough handling there appear to be numerous hairlines, hits & dings. Looks like light rub on both the obverse and reverse, which would cause to have an impaired Proof grade. And the reverse looks like it has had some light cleaning to boot which would result in a no grade or a genuine slab. All of that is assuming it is genuine which I cannot say based on the pics. Add to that that the seller has no stated return policy and even the 20 ft pole would not be long enough.
I believe that is just an artifact from the photos. It can occur due to the plastic slab distortion, or to the camera being slightly off axis. I think the coin is probably genuine, but with issues as noted by Doug. I wouldn't be a bidder, either.
I think the coin is probably real, but I don't think it's a proof, just a PL coin. This is a very early NTC slab.
The rim looks funny on the rev at 11:00. casting lines? Also the Banner looks wrong for some reason, Fonts?
