New member and first coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by BRIAN HARRIS, Jul 22, 2020.

  1. Dobbin

    Dobbin Active Member

    Cool coin. Such objects being touch points for learning are my favorite part.
     
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  3. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    You could not have had a better start. Great coin, from one of the most reliable and knowledgeable dealers out there, and a nice guy to boot.

    Here's my version of your coin, and my write-up.
    MAGNENTIUS CHI RHO.jpg

    So the year is 350 A.D. There are two Roman emperors: Constantius II in the East and Constans in the West, both sons of Constantine the Great. Magnentius, a former imperial guard commander, arose in the West and usurped the rule of Constans, who was soon trapped and killed near the Pyrenees. Magnentius had to act fast to solidify his base of power because rivals in the West (such as Vetranio) were gathering troops, and soon Constantius would arrive from the East to avenge his brother. Perhaps as a genuine gesture of piety, or perhaps as a crass means of rallying the support of the Christian faction, Magnentius had this coin struck featuring a large Chi-Rho monogram. (It also features a portrait that makes Magnentius look like Conway Twitty.) While the Chi-Rho had been featured in small details of Constantinian coinage, never had it held such prominence. The iconographical message is startling: Magnentius, not the sons of Constantine, was the true heir to Christian Empire. After all, his Chi-Rho was bigger than their Chi-Rho. Sadly for Magnentius, his Chi-Rho couldn’t save him, at least not physically. He was soundly defeated by Constantius at the Battle of Mursa Major in Croatia in 351. (Magnentius personally led his troops into battle; Constantius left the battle to pray.) Magnentius’s forces suffered a final defeat in southern France at the Battle of Mons Seleucus, after which Magnentius died the “Roman death” by falling on his sword in 353.
     
  4. John Conduitt

    John Conduitt Well-Known Member

    There's nothing wrong with doubting authenticity, not just in terms of whether it's fake or not, but whether it has been attributed correctly.

    There are fakes out there, some that even trick dealers, although this should be much less likely through VCoins than eBay (but not impossible). I'm relatively new to this too and I might be wrong, but I haven't found fakes to be an issue when buying through reputable dealers (not eBay).

    But a few times I've bought coins that turned out to be wrongly attributed. On a couple of occasions they didn't even get the ruler correct. The wrong attribution could change the value of the coin quite significantly, so it's worth checking yourself, or if that fails, on here.

    Having said that, researching the coin is a huge part of the fun of collecting. Once you've done that, quite often you'll answer any questions yourself. (And find you now have a long wish list of other coins you want).
     
  5. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    in this specific situation I trust the dealer.
     
  6. John Conduitt

    John Conduitt Well-Known Member

    Yes indeed. I'd trust you'd got it right too!
     
  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Welcome, @BRIAN HARRIS . Great first coin.

    I have an XP with Poemenius:

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    RI
    Poemenius in name of Constantius II
    summer 353
    Trier
    XP
    RIC VIII Trier 332
    RARE
    Ex: @seth77
     
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  8. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Hi and Welcome to Coin Talk. Here's my Magnentius:

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    magentius2.jpg
     
  9. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    That's such a good history of the coin! Where did you get it? That's interesting enough to make me consider diving into ancients if I can get that history to back the coin!
     
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  10. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

  11. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    That’s kind of you to say. That’s my own write up. Complete with the Conway Twitty reference.
     
  12. capthank

    capthank Well-Known Member

    Terrific first coin
     
  13. Fugio1

    Fugio1 Well-Known Member

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  14. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Some of my Poemenius revolt types are also courtesy of @Victor_Clark

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    @Alegandron yours I think is courtesy of Roy Flora.
     
  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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  16. Mr.Q

    Mr.Q Well-Known Member

    Lucky you welcome to CT good luck, be safe, wear a mask...
     
  17. BRIAN HARRIS

    BRIAN HARRIS Member

    Those are beautiful!
     
  18. BRIAN HARRIS

    BRIAN HARRIS Member

    Yes, to start I’m interested in Christian times.
     
  19. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    @BRIAN HARRIS

    That is a lovely first coin...congrats. You did the one thing that many people new to the hobby do not do. You bought from a trusted source. You cannot do any better than buying from Victor. He is knowledgeable, trustworthy and kind.
     
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