Coins for sale w/TrueView photos only, Why???

I cannot understand for the life of me why some sellers (especially on eBay) post coins for sale and only use PCGS TrueView images, and nothing else.
I’m sorry but no way would I buy a coin based on those over-saturated, color-juiced “beauty shots” and nothing else. I mean sure, include those but how hard is it to snap a couple images from different angles of each side with even an iPhone camera.
I’m sure I’m not alone...
Im sure some will say “ I’ll just return if I don’t like it”....

Anyone out there comfortable with buying a coin having seen only the TrueViews?

Here’s an example:
I may have already claimed this dime if there was any other/additional image available to corroborate the color/toning appeal.
I did ask seller for some and was told that all the coins were in a bank safe deposit box, therefore additional pictures weren’t possible.
And I’ve done business with this seller before!!
I’m curious to hear what others think about this.

 

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Sometimes the real view is better than the true view. I agree with you. Some are color enhanced...

 

The bigger risk would be seller who do not own said coin (I know one will likely get ones money back but still )

 

Yes, that would certainly have been my first suspicion, especially when my request for additional photos was blown off.
If a coin is in safe deposit, what’s the difference between visiting it for a quick photo shoot and visiting with the purpose of retrieving it to ship because it sold?
So that was a lame excuse as well.

Please note that I know the seller of the example coin is an honest dealer, having completed several satisfactory deals on and off eBay. I see this same thing a lot though...TrueView images and nothing else.

 

I was looking through the Trade Dollars earlier and I saw one with only the TrueView pictures. So I passed.


This seller wasn't one of the big eBay coin dealers. So there was no trust, since I never dealt with them before.


Personally, I want to see a quality picture of the coin taken by the seller. Then ideally, I can compare that to the TrueView version.

 

They aren't juiced, they're what the coin looks like under the lighting they use. Color can look a billion different ways depending on the lighting and angle just as it does holding it in hand. While the settings can sometimes be the most flattering way of bringing out the color, they aren't juiced or enhanced which implies deception

The overwhelming majority of sellers will ignore such requests for the simple fact that its essentially a waste of their time. People ask all the time for more and new sellers will generally do it, then over time they realize that almost none of the requests result in a sale and those that do have a higher return rate than usual.

It's nothing personal against you nor is it an indication of any wrong doing, it's just that people either like a coin or they don't and the vast majority that ask for more pictures don't really like the coin enough to buy it

 

This is correct. The key to the vivid colors often showcased in TrueViews is the axial lighting setup they use, but they don't use it exclusively. I have an Ike proof that looks remarkably different in hand vs. the TrueView. But, when viewed at the right angle my eyes do see the "TrueView" coin.

Composite slab image using the TrueView image (axial lighting):

Composite slab "in-hand" image (direct light):

So, what does this coin really look like? It looks exactly like BOTH images depending on the angle in which it's viewed. However, under most viewing conditions, the coin looks bluish-purple like the second image taken by me with direct light. But there is that one particular angle where you will "see" the TrueView image.

@Deerslayer88 - Like you, I also like to see pictures of the slab along with the TrueView. The main reason is because I want to see how the coin is oriented in the holder. I would be disappointed if I received a coin and it was turned, say, 90 degrees in the holder. That would bug me.

 

I don't understand this.
The same seller has this coin listed. Same coin with a different Cert.#

 

Because that’s what sells, and it is probably better than what the seller can take anyway

 

If this is the seller I am thinking of, they definitely enhance the true views because most ignorant buyers would never question the true views.

If they were to post their own pictures it would be obvious that the true views aren't being honest in how vibrant the toning really is.

This seller is just scamming people. Plain and simple.

 

Last I checked, E-Bay requires full slab photos of both the obverse & reverse, so sellers using just TruViews are in violation of E-Bay policy. As an E-Bay seller who follows the rules, this ticks me off.

 

That cert isn't valid anymore. Probably tried to upgrade it and forgot to kill the listing

 

I agree add them but other pics needed as well.

 

Good point, as I have seen this done before. One can juice a TrueView very easily with the most basic phone app. I always check a coin via PCGS cert verification.

 

PCGS would probably be interested if some seller was juicing their pics. Probably the easiest way to get it stopped too

 

One thing being overlooked is the fact that the camera allows the saturation to be set internally so that no post-processing is necessary. For the Canon T7i, which is at least one of PCGS's camera's of choice, you can adjust it from a -4 to +4 range, which I assume covers a spectrum from "a lot less" to "a lot more". What they use, I have no idea, but it saves time if they were to set it in the camera for what customers like and avoid monkeying with it in post-processing.

 

Here's a proof truview vs my photos. Which look better?

 

Looks like you captured the same colors as the TrueView.

 

This is perfect. If this coin was for sale and I was interested. You got the the sellers pic and the TrueView. You can tell it's the same coin. BIN pressed.

 

I posted this above but nobody caught it. Same seller, same coin but two different cert.#s. The seller has both listed on ebay as of yesterday.