1894 Morgan Dollar - Hidden Mint Marks?

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  1. ryanbrooks

    ryanbrooks Active Member

    Hello everyone! :)

    A friend of mine came across this auction, and noticed that there looks to be a mint mark here that has either been removed, or damaged in the process of removing it. I myself see an S and O mintmark shifted to the left and right where the mint mark "should" be, and where it "should" be, I see a faded O. Please look at his pictures and let me know what you think!

    Thanks!

    http://cgi.ebay.com/1894-P-Morgan-Dollar-Silver-Coin-KEY-DATE-1894-P-RARE_W0QQitemZ260318818412QQihZ016QQcategoryZ139812QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

    (I have also attached a picture for those of you who don't know what in the world I'm talking about :D)

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  3. Coinfreak~24

    Coinfreak~24 Active Member

    wow great coin nice find!!!
     
  4. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    I would never bid on that, based on those pics. It definitely looks like monkey business to me.
     
  5. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Candidly, I think that those photos are so crappy and oversharpened that your friend is seeing something that's not really there. Respectfully and honestly submitted...Mike
     
  6. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    I think it's like The Face On Mars. If you look at a pattern of random markings, your mind tends to fill in something familiar. I don't see what you are seeing.
     
  7. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Unfortunately, the key die mark diagnostics on the reverse can't be seen without sharper, larger photos. Anyone who buys one of these uncertified, or without close examination first, is setting themselves up for a big hassle if it isn't real, imo.
     
  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    The CC is impossible, none minted.
    And the O is in the wrong place.

    but, could be damage.
     
  9. fireguy83

    fireguy83 Member

    something just dont look right about that coin alot of little bubbles around and under one dollar maybe casting marks
     
  10. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    On the photo, portions of the coin's reverse have a strange bubbly "showflake" effect...
    • above the arrows, 'twixt the wing and wreath
    • along the bottom around the words ONE DOLLAR
    Is that an artifact of "oversharpening" a digital image (Photoshop or whatever) ?

    If that's on the actual coin, I would suspect a counterfeit.
     
  11. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I would stay far away from that coin. Like as already been said, it's a key coin without clear photos. That in itself is a big "no no" for me. I won't buy a common coin with bad photos...so you can imagine what I think about keys. With coins like this, I typically won't even look at them on eBay unless they are slabbed by a TPG. I know people say don't buy the slab (I say that too), but there are too many counterfeits on eBay to take a chance. Then, there is something omonious about the reverse of that coin. Too many marks where the mint mark shouldn't be. Finally, this is a variable coin. The fact the nobody bid on it means that we aren't the only people who see something wrong...therefore, we aren't imagining it.
     
  12. fireguy83

    fireguy83 Member

    well said richieb16
     
  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    A definate don't buy , without better pics .
    rzage
     
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