1913 Barber Dime - cleaned or not?

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  1. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    Does this dime look cleaned? It looks to me like a nice BU piece except for the dirt in some of the crevases. However, for that dirt to have accumulated it seems that it would have to have been circulated. I don't see any signs of wear due to circulation except possibly the few nicks on the rim and hits on the portrait and reverse field.
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  3. ALF

    ALF Member

    I'm no expert, but it looks to be unc. to me. Lots of luster and absent of any whiz marks. Nice looking Barber.
     
  4. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I don't see any hairlines that would indicate the coin has been cleaned harshly. The luster looks good as well so I don't think it has been dipped either. So, my non-expert opinion would say this is not a cleaned coin...but again, I'm not an expert.
     
  5. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I'd say it's a high Au-58 slider , probably been in someones pocket to get all the small scratches and dinks , also would account for the dirt . Still a well struck beautiful coin . JMO
    rzage
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I think what you are calling dirt is actually the remnants of very dark, black toning. It's been dipped, definitely. The coin has its share of hits and dings but I can see no signs of wear.
     
  7. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    But what about all those little dings and scratches , they don't look like bag marks .
    rzage:cool:
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Remember this is a dime, tiny little coin in a bag of other timy little coins. Tiny little coins make tiny little marks - lots of 'em.
     
  9. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Sounds good to me so MS-60-61 .
    rzage:smile
     
  10. jazzcoins

    jazzcoins New Member

    i have to agree with Gd that coin is without a doubt dipped look at the unusual luster . I have a walking liberty that is dipped you just could tell by the luster it's a dead give away.
    Jazzcoins Joe:)
     
  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's been cleaned.
     
  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    How so? It doesn't look cleaned to me. It looks like it may have been given an acetone dip to remove toning...but as far as I can tell in the pics the luster has shown no negative effects. I don't see any hairlines as evidence of scrubbing the surface with anything.
     
  13. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    dipped? yes. cleaned- I doubt it, but you can't be sure unless you look at it with a point source light. I see a couple of slide marks on the cheek, but that's all. Nice looking coin.
     
  14. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    I'm no expert and most of what I know about coins has come from listening to more experienced collectors like GD.

    I don't think the coin has been dipped and when I say dipped I mean in thiourea. I think if it was dipped the dark toning in the tight areas would've taken on a redish hue. I think it's a nice looking coin with no signs of a cleaning. That doesn't mean it has never been cleaned.
     
  15. jetshack

    jetshack Roll Hunter Extrodinare

    Any coin this old will have some sort of toning on it. At the very least it has been dipped.
     
  16. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    "Any coin this old will have some sort of toning on it."


    Depends on where the coin was all these years. Millions of morgans sat in bags for a long time and never toned. It is the ones that were on the outside of the pile or touched up against the canvas that gives us those nice rainbows and other toned coins we see today.
     
  17. rld14

    rld14 Custom User Title

    I have a number of GSA CC Morgans that say otherwise.
     
  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    That is different, you have coins that sat for decades in the middle of a $1,000 bag of coins, without exposure to the elements.

    This coin: Unc, POSSIBLY dipped, but still attractive.
     
  19. jetshack

    jetshack Roll Hunter Extrodinare

    Let me rephrase me statement...

    For all practical purposes any coin this old will exhibit some form of toning. At the very least this coin has been dipped.
     
  20. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    And as long as the dipping didn't hurt the luster...there is nothing wrong with that.
     
  21. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    All dipping hurts coins. Its only a matter of degree.

    Ruben
     
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