Victory coins and medallions

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  1. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Nice coins displayed... here is my Probus/Victory

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  3. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Thank you for doing that @DCCR - you are a champion researcher! The high cost of the CNG example you posted is because it is an original Bourgey galvano copy. There was also an example of a cast replica (something like the one I posted here) offered by CNG a while ago and that was the one I was referencing (a little more research @DCCR ?). I think there are several sources for these cast copies. As I mentioned previously, they are available from time to time from various sources in a variety of metals.

    A little further history:

    I had been seeking one of these so that I could include a photo of it on my “Britannic coins of the Tetrarchy” web page (now defunct). I found this one for sale in a local coin shop about forty years ago. I cannot recall what I paid for it - I think about $50. I use the pic of the reverse as my avatar.

    I no longer own it - I gave it to Mauseus - a denizen of another Ancient Coin Forum - he is/was one of the most knowledgeable collectors of Carausian coins I knew of and I wanted to be sure this item got into the collection of someone like him before I shuffle off this mortal coil. That was in my pre-Coin Talk days - now I wish I would have held on to it and gifted it to a Coin Talker.
     
  4. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    That is a great Probus @Clavdivs! I love the Victory depiction on the reverse.
     
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  5. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    I found that CNG entry!!! Here it is (click on the link):

    CNG listed a cast copy for sale a number of years ago - the listing erroneously includes "..... the now lost medal from the Arras Hoard, discovered in 1922". It was never lost.

    so now you can relax @DCCR!
     
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  6. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    A repeat in case anyone missed it:

    I found that CNG entry!!! Here it is (click on the link):

    CNG listed a cast copy for sale a number of years ago - the listing erroneously includes "..... the now lost medal from the Arras Hoard, discovered in 1922". It was never lost.

    So you are off the hook @DCCR - but you still are a champion researcher:)
     
  7. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    A Victory coin of Septimius Severus. No specific victory is referenced.

    Septimius Severus, AR Denarius 198 AD, Laodicea Mint. Obv. Laureate head right, L SEP SEVERVS PER - AVG P M IMP XI/ Rev. Victory advancing left, holding wreath & palm branch, VICT AVGG COS II P P. RIC IV-1 499, RSC III 695, Sear RCV II 6370. 19.29 mm., 3.15 g.

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  8. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Very nice Donna. Thank you for posting it (nice depiction of Victory on the reverse).
     
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  9. Nathan B.

    Nathan B. Well-Known Member

    PlanoSteve is just being modest. He actually had a great victory over the barbarians, and medals were struck in his honour. Unfortunately, owing to the damnatio memoriae of a wicked emperor who usurped PlanoSteve's throne, forcing him into retirement, every medal was hunted down and remorselessly destroyed.

    Fortunately, a plaster cast was made of the reverse and hidden away. Owing to the fact that only the reverse was made, we can infer that the copyist was interrupted, perhaps by the knock of a Roman centurion at his door. This cast was safeguarded through the years, until in the fullness of time, an anonymous 15-century Venetian artist was able to use the cast as the basis for new single-instance issue of the medal, thus preserving the memory of this victory for posterity:

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    Plano Stephanus, XYZ, Vol. IV, No. 3
    Obverse: plain (not shown)
    Reverse: Stephanus, radiate head facing right
    Inscription from top: VICTORIAE STEPH. BARB.
    Reverse: Victory standing right, holding an olive branch and laurel wreath
    Venetian copy after an unknown Roman minted original
    Weight: 30 g.
    c. 15th century, Venice
    Original copy in the Abguss-Sammlung Antiker Plastik
     

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  10. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    AE denomination of Severus Alexander is this Orichalcum sestertius, VICTORIA AVGVSTI type:

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  11. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    What on earth was all that about?
     
  12. Nathan B.

    Nathan B. Well-Known Member

    Just an attempt to lighten the mood of the membership after an unrelated thread happened.
     
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  13. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    I had not seen one of those before @ancient coin hunter - I like the depiction of Vctory on the reverse - thanks for posting it.
     
  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    This is my absolute favorite version of Victory, what I affectionally call the "Spaghetti Victory"
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  15. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Oh!
     
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  16. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    I can see why you do @hotwheelsearl - thank you for posting it.
     
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  17. Nathan B.

    Nathan B. Well-Known Member

    Also, I really liked PlanoSteve's joke. I've often felt the same way.
     
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  18. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Here is another example but with the Nero portrait facing left and with a different patina:

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    RIC Vol. I, Nero, As, Lugdunum, No. 544

     
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  19. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Now I’ve got it:)

    I am sometimes slow on the uptake these days.
     
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  20. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

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    For more on this type, search CT for "Victoria Navalis".

    - Broucheion
     
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  21. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    Thank you for posting that @Broucheion! I wasn’t aware that he struck coins celebrating a naval victory.
     
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