Black beauty

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Muhammad Niazi, Jul 1, 2020.

  1. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    Got my second ever parthian drachm recently. Gave it a decent photoshoot today. Interestingly both my parthian drachms have a neat patina on them. My previous one having a brownish hoard patina and this one being blackish.
    Ive been focusing on minerals for the past few months which is why my coin collection is kind of slow. But im getting back at it :)
    You guys can view some of my collection and other projects at my instagram as well.
    https://instagram.com/treasures_of_pakistan?igshid=1967ava0hhtbk

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    Sellwood type 39.5 (correct me if wrong)
    Phraates III, 70-57 BC
    mint: royal court at rhagae
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Love those "hoard" patinas, nice addition, Muhammad.
     
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  4. randygeki

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  5. Spaniard

    Spaniard Well-Known Member

    Monogram under the bow of the archer fits nicely...Sel 39.5..
    Very nice coin..
     
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  6. dltsrq

    dltsrq Grumpy Old Man

    I'd say you've not only added a nice Parthian drachm to your coin collection but a specimen of chlorargyrite for your mineral collection as well. :)
     
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  7. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    Muhammad , beautiful patina on your Parthian drachm; Your Lapis on your instagram site is nothing short of stunning!
     
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  8. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    Woah, that adds a whole other dimension to it :eek:

    Thanks!

    If anyone else has coins of phraates III, would love to see them.
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Great coin! And cool site! Well done, Muhammad.
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    This is a very nice coin and, I believe, Sellwood 39.5 but I remain unclear on the assignment of king names to the various coins with 'deer' on the headgear and the extremely varied coins assigned to Phraates III. I would appreciate someone who feels comfortable with the concepts involved here to run through the evidence and history of attributions for these coins. I would expect this discussion to include the names Sinatrukes, Darius and Orodes. My coin below is currently resting with a Sinatrukes label, Sellwood 33.4 (as Gotarzes I).
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    My cast fake was identified as Phraates III based on Sellwood 35 series having been reattributed from Darios.
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    I believe my AE17 is genuine and Sellwood 35.15 (Darios), Shore 167 (Phraates III)
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    I do not understand the process that led these coins to be identified as they are.
    This came to me as Gotarzes I Sellwood 33.4, Shore 115. op0075bb3092.jpg

    I always like it when a coin ends up with a collector who appreciates it for what some people would consider a fault. The OP coin has encrustations behind the head that some people would try to remove likely ruining the coin. A mineral specimen on a coin with both being appreciated seems the best of both worlds.
     
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  12. Muhammad Niazi

    Muhammad Niazi Well-Known Member

    I agree. While searching google about various coins of phraates III I came across the front facing and the one without a tiara even. Was interesting as I expected one king to have the same kind of bust on his coins as is usually the case. The number of deer and the symbol inside the tiara along with the lines of legend on the obverse were some of the features used in identification from the website:

    https://mrcollector.eu/parthia/index.php?language=en

    the deer having antlers or none also made some difference.
    ill try to read up on some manuscripts involving parthian coins and see what I can up with regarding this.
     
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  13. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice coin Muhammad.
     
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