Is this 20$ bill a counterfeit, or perhaps some sort of error?

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by Bluntflame, Jun 16, 2020.

  1. Bluntflame

    Bluntflame Well-Known Member

    I found this bill sitting in my wallet while searching for some fancy serial numbers, and decided to look into its slightly lower serial number. When I looked at US Paper Money to look at mintage information, I noticed the serial number is not possible under the series that it was produced in, being that this would have had to be between ML1920000K and ML96000000K. I could really use some help figuring out exactly what is happening here.

    Look under district L, run K: http://www.uspapermoney.info/serials/f2013_v.html

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  3. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    It falls between these serial numbers...

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  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks real to me
     
  5. Bluntflame

    Bluntflame Well-Known Member

    Ah, so I was reading the chart wrong. I though that it HAD too fall above that number or something. Thank you for the help!
     
  6. CaptainMK

    CaptainMK Active Member

  7. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    When reading the chart, a suffix change indicates the serial numbers ran up to the limit before changing to the next letter.
    This shows MF07040001C - MF06400000D, meaning MF07040001C up to MF96000000C then a change to MF00000001D though MF06400000D.

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  8. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    I collect sequentially number notes, especially $20 notes. It has been an easy way to save money. I say this thread and I would like to know where I can get the information on the numbering schemes of notes by the Treasury Department. Thanks.
     
  9. Bluntflame

    Bluntflame Well-Known Member

    I forget how I got that link. Sorry!
     
  10. cashhound

    cashhound Well-Known Member

    19,200,000 printed in fw
     
  11. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    I stopped off at a bank today. A guy from a business who was in front of me walked in to turn in a counterfeit Series 2013 $50 note. I walked up to the same teller afterward and asked why it was thought to be counterfeit.

    The teller said it looked decent enough but not only was it lacking the watermark and strip but that the feel of the paper was off. Looks can be deceiving.
     
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  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Your missing a number in the first Serial.. should be 8 numbers not 7 ;)
     
  13. CaptainMK

    CaptainMK Active Member

    When I worked retail back in the day, they had a full seminar of how to catch counterfeit bills, the amount of work some people put into making some of these is crazy.

    I had a boss of mine almost pass 5 $20 fake bills, these were well done fakes for sure and the counterfeiter knew the older $20 lacked the new security features of current bills. They were all crinkled to give the illusion of worn money.

    I noticed that they lacked the feel for sure but what a lot of people don't know is that us currency purposely puts small colored fiber in there bills to signify they are legit as well, another countermeasure which cannot be replicated on a printer (now printers are designed to not scan or print US currency, learned that when I was a copier tech). These bills lacked the fibers. I walked to the game store next door to borrow their bill pen as we didn't have one, when I came back, the man saw I had a bill pen and swiftly walked out the door.

    We called the police dept which confiscated the bills and we gave the store video footage. Never knew what happened to the man. I always wondered if they think, is it worth time in jail for $100.....I guess they don't care much.
     
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