Should I cross to NGC or...

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  1. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

    Crack out and submit? Why or why not? DSC_0048.JPG DSC_0045.JPG DSC_0047.JPG DSC_0490 (2).JPG DSC_0496 (2).JPG
     
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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Leave it alone, unless you are interested in seeing how far from ANA and their own grading standards they are willing to go.
    I already see an overgraded coin.
    But that is market grading for ya.
     
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  4. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

    Here's the old slab.
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  5. erscolo

    erscolo Well-Known Member

    CAC agreed with PCGS. Why throw more money at it? Makes zero sense to me.
     
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  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    It used to be an Anacs MS 65, so PCGS was actually conservative. :p

    In general, I'd say don't cross. Whether there is merit or not, people will pay more for it as a PCGS + CAC toner, so crossing it won't increase the price. Plus both companies tend to be stricter when dealing with cross overs from the other (meaning they might not even cross it or only at a lower grade). Cracking it out would give it a more fair look, but again I don't see the point unless it comes back MS 65 star (which is no certainty).
     
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    What generation of Anacs is the slab?
    Was it previously sent in as a crack out? Or, a cross?
    Either way a plus or star would not be out of bounds but 65 +/* would be IMO.
    My opinion only. Both top tier companys believe they are above reproach so it wouln't suprise me to see it in a higher graded slab.
     
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  8. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

    It was sent in as a crack out. I think the ANACS slab was in the Amos days.
     
  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Leave it alone. What are you looking for? An upgrade to 65? Not worth it. A star for color? It does not need it, as it has beautiful toning. Don’t waste your money.
     
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  10. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    You got that right, why beat a dead horse especially if it's going to cost more money?!! It's already got a solid grade, just sayin'!
     
  11. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

    I wanted a star, but you are right. It doesn't really need a star since it speaks for itself.
     
  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Most of the money of this coin is driven by the color, not the assigned grade. Yes, I understand that many people determine the toning premium by multiplying the assigned grade, but others simply just pay up for a coin that appeals to them. It isn't a lock for MS65 anyway, I think you are better off leaving it in PCGS MS64 CAC.
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Edit.
     
  14. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Best answer!
     
  15. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I agree that the color drives the price here and it's not a lock for MS 65.

    However, there does seem to be a difference at certain grades when it comes to toners. And the "gem" grade of MS 65 is one of those where I've seen prices start to increase at a higher rate (part of the reason is that some set the cut off for what they collect at that level).
     
  16. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    She’s generously graded at 64. Don’t waste your time
     
  17. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    I love those old ANACS holders
     
  18. BlackberryPie

    BlackberryPie I like pie

    Me too. It's what I buy most of now.
     
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  19. COOPER12

    COOPER12 Well-Known Member

    I will when I can as well. Have a few nice clashed E ones
     
  20. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    No no and no. Pcgs cac is by far the best way. I’m seeing ngc holders bringing considerably less anymore. Even with a starc
     
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  21. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    Agreed with the consensus, looks great where it is. People would pay bonkers money for it just the way it is, sure those same people would pay slightly crazier money if it were 65 CAC, but no guarantees it gets there and not a gamble not worth taking.

    And if/when it ever comes time to sell, if I were you I would just set a price in your mind of what you’d like for it at 64 CAC, then imagine what you’d ask for it if it were 65 CAC, ask the latter price and be patient.
     
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