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It looks like a good call on a Die State (I). Oddly enough, it looks like I may have one that I called S-121c because I thought it had a partially diagonal reeded edge rather than either beaded or gripped. Take a close look at the stem of B.

 

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@Conder101 what do you think about my 1797?

 

I'm actually leaning toward NC-1. Spacing on LIBERTY seems too wide, and the top of the 1 is lower down from the hair than on 121.

 

I did an image overlay, and it matched S-121. Maybe @justafarmer can confirm?

 

Did you have an overlay of the NC-1?
I'm leaning with Conder right now:

 

A new pickup. A little damage on each side but an R5 for just over $100.

 

I saw that one. I didn’t think I could flip it for much of a profit

 

I was using the seller’s pics. I will use mine shortly

 

S-121. Perfect match. Look at dentils above LIBERTY



NC-1. Date and TY noticeably do not line up.

 

Anyone want to take a stab at this one? Supposed to be an 1804, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to say either way, and you guys are walking encyclopedia's... (seller's images)

 

The reverse die break and fraction look right

 

Ok, cool!

Estimated value?

 

1804s attributable only by the CUDs with no date seem to be running about $300, but there has been about a 20% drop in the market recently so it could be as low as $240.

I would probably be a buyer at the low end of that price range so consider that disclosure. If some of the 4 were showing it would quickly double or even triple.

The planchet does look above average for a low grade Cent with no major corrosion distracting from it.

This would be considered BS-1 (EAC) or P-1 (TPG) with better detail in some areas. Uneven wear always presents a challenge so it could be considered Fr-2 by some.

 

That is actually a pretty nice example, for the grade, of S-266C.
I think I would grade it a little higher than PO-1, as the reverse still displays some nice detail.

 

I wish that were true. They tend to go for double that

I’d grade it FR/AG

 

I was just going by Heritage Auction Records. The visible 4 makes a ton of difference. But this is nice for a dateless example.

 

I can see the date in the pics. I’d bet it would be much stronger in hand

 

That would definitely make a lot of difference.

 

I can see the date as well, and it is no question an 1804 even if you couldn't see the date.

 

I need to check my eyes again. All I see is a touch of the 0 and smudges. Of course there is no question about the attribution with the diagnostic reverse die break.

The question was about the difference in value from one that could only be identified by the break and one where the date was visible, so with two of you seeing the date it makes it higher.