1975-d Experimental or foreign Planchet?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Glenn Attalla, Jun 14, 2020.

  1. Mike185

    Mike185 Well-Known Member

    It’s plated that’s all there is too it. He says it weight 2.8 and a 2000d nickel weights 4.1 but he says his scale is correct.... so me must extremely lucky to find a under weight nickel to though on a scale show us that his scale is accurate which it’s not. He need to recalibrate his scale and check the weight of his 75 cent on aforeign planchette again...
     
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  3. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I have taken tiny nicks out of the sharp edges of coins many times back years ago to make sure if they were plated or not . Now I can usually tell from just looking at them.Maybe the op didn't think his or her coin was valuable until they examined it. Some folks on here seems to be too happy to shoot others coins down without even knowing for sure what it is.
     
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    An experienced collector would never damage a coin, in order to ñrove a theory,/assumption.
    You have now upheld @Collecting Nut statement.
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    And that's exactly the point I was saying. At least some members got it.
     
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  6. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    You can tell because plating a circulated coin doesn't remove the wear. It just puts an even layer over it.
     
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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I couldn't have said it better.
     
  8. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I will agree with you on a worn circulated but how can you or anyone else truthfully say the op's coin is just plated from a photo when the coin has no wear at all ?
     
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  9. Glenn Attalla

    Glenn Attalla Member

    I’ve been in the jewelry business for over 20 years. I have a thousandth scale .001 that I have weighed all my coins that are off on to verify the weights from my pocket scales. Yes I have a 2000-d nickel that weighs 4.15 grams. That silver colored penny weighs 2.8 grams. If it was played [edited] does it weigh less than 3.11 and be out of tolerance? Why do you assume that my scales off and that some other error can’t be the explanation. You think I waste my time posting pictures on an online forum when I have exhausted all other options. Local dealers, research ect..... I only post on here when I have not been able to get a direct answer and before I waste money submitting it I’d like to see what the so called experts on here say. So far I only get trashed and get the worst responses on here. Thanks for treating me like a 14 year old idiot. It would be nice if you just took every post for what it says and not question of what I am saying is even real. Anyone have suggestions of a better forum?
     
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  10. Glenn Attalla

    Glenn Attalla Member

    It’s possible the nickel is a underweight Planchet. However for almost a gram off it would be close to 20% difference in size unless the metal composition is different hence why I think foreign or some other Planchet. If it ends up being so I’ll let you guys know [edited].
     
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  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It started out underweight before it was plated.
     
  12. Glenn Attalla

    Glenn Attalla Member

    Have to be thick plating since I scratched it and it does not appear to be plated.
     
  13. Glenn Attalla

    Glenn Attalla Member

    Also what would make it underweight in the first place? Since it is not a tapered or thinly rolled planchet?
     
  14. Glenn Attalla

    Glenn Attalla Member

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  15. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    You have messed your thread up by putting that other coin on it.
     
  16. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    That's a nice example of a 1975-D Plated Cent.
     
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  17. Glenn Attalla

    Glenn Attalla Member

    How is it plated if a penny, should weigh 3.11?
     
  18. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Did you search the spreadsheet in post 30 to see if anything matches the weight that was struck in Denver in the early-mid 70s? If something matches then you have a pretty good chance. if it doesnt, then you have to come up with a plausible explanation of how a random unknown planchet got into the Denver minting process.

    Just based on appearance, however, it looks like the countless plated coins that have been posted here over the years. The 2.8 gm weight is unusual but there is a chance it could be a slightly underweight planchet. Plating adds very little weight and with the 0.1 th resolution on your scale, it might not even register. The variation in weight alone is not enough to prove it was struck on a foreign planchet
     
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  19. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    It's not on any wrong or foreign planchet.

    The slightly lower weight (plus plating) could be,
    as mentioned, that the coin started out a bit light,
    an insignificant amount, imo.

    It is still a plated copper cent. It is not an error
    coin, except maybe it's a few % light - and
    even without the plating, would be close to
    worthless as such - but even more so as a plated
    coin.

    Submit it to either PCGS, NGC, or ANACS and show
    us that we're wrong. We're not.
     
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  20. Glenn Attalla

    Glenn Attalla Member

    Well the 1975-d was one I was thinking of buying from a locaL collector. I’m more interested in figuring out what my nickel is.
     
  21. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    This is what you have to realize with a foreign planchet.
    Almost ALL foreign coins have a different SIZE and weight than US coins.
    This is done deliberately so as not to mix the same size /weight foreign coins with US coins since the foreign coins are usually worth much less.
    (There are a couple foreign coins that are intentionally the same size/ composition and weight as US coins, but in that case there's no way to tell it's a foreign planchet.)
    Now, only a coin the same size OR SMALLER can fit in the hub/minting press for whatever denomination coin you are making.
    So, to be on a foreign planchet the coin has to be smaller than whatever the denomination is. Which would result in incomplete rims, since the planchet was smaller. If your coin has the complete rim it can't be on a foreign planchet.
    The nickel is interesting, it could be on a thinly rolled planchet and 4.14 is below tolerance. Small premium if that's the case.
    The penny had some kind of plating applied to it. It is lower weight but not by much. 2.98-3.24 are the specs for copper cents.
     
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