Coin Characteristic Quiz #5

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  1. Insider

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    Describe what you see on the edge of this Morgan dollar to someone who cannot see it.. Then tell what could cause this effect and what did you see on the edge to come to that conclusion.

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  3. Danomite

    Danomite What do you say uh-huh

    Looks like half an Oreo cookie with one lick of the stuffing missing. Looks to me like a coin that was in an old Whitman folder and someone used liquid silver cleaner to clean the exposed side.
     
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  4. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    Looks like half the coin (Obverse or reverse) was dipped in chocolate and it was oozing down the rim.

    or maybe it’s upside down. The whole coin was deep toned and someone dipped one half of it. My instinct says that would look more like a straight line or actually dripping down the rim though.
     
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  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Improperly Seated Collar (?)
     
  6. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Folder coin that had one face cleaned.
     
  7. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    irregular color difference at outside of the edge. Possibly struck through something in what looks to be a well worn reeding collar die
     
  8. NPCoin

    NPCoin Resident Imbecile

    The edge of the coin is like two different coins put together. The top half is amber toned with hues of red and green. The outer portion of the top half have numerous contacts like it had been smacked around or dropped numerous times. The bottom portion however is clean and white with contacts like for a coin of its size.

    The difference between the toned and white sides of the edge are not a perfect line, but rather more like a wave and uneven. This leads me to believe that this coin was not pulled from an album but may have been an ender in a roll and could very well be a nice one-sided rainbow toner.
     
  9. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I am in the same camp as @Kentucky.... Silver polish was brushed on the face of a folder coin.
     
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  10. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    One side of the coin was dropped in a thin pool of silver dip?
     
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  11. buckeye73

    buckeye73 Well-Known Member

    Looks post-mint work. Kentucky’s response is also my best guess.
     
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  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    It looks like a coin that had one side painted silver and the painter was careless and got some on the rim in an irregular pattern.

    I don't think this coin was placed in a shallow dip because if it were there would be a straight line of color change...because the liquid's surface would not be jagged. I also disagree with the theory that it was in an album of some kind and was polished for the same reason. The coin's rim would have much more linear pattern and wouldn't be jagged.

    I suspect this coin was in some kind of jewelry bezel where the rim was covered in an irregular pattern around the edge. That one side was polished with silver polish and a cloth and it was able to get in and around the bezel in different areas resulting in the irregular pattern on the rim.
     
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  13. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I don't think being pushed into some kind of (cardboard?) holder would make a toned/untoned line that crisp. Looks like someone dipped one side, than tipped the coin before rinsing it?
     
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  14. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    +1
     
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  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    CamaroDMD, posted: "It looks like a coin that had one side painted silver and the painter was careless and got some on the rim in an irregular pattern.

    I don't think this coin was placed in a shallow dip because if it were there would be a straight line of color change...because the liquid's surface would not be jagged. I also disagree with the theory that it was in an album of some kind and was polished for the same reason. The coin's rim would have much more linear pattern and wouldn't be jagged."


    One side of this coin is "white" and the other has a very colorful toning "JOB." It is artificially toned and the SHARP, WAVY, separation of color on the edge made the AT opinion 100% verified.
     
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  16. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title] Supporter

    OK...interesting. So, I was looking at it backwards but my impression of "painting" wasn't too far off. Really interesting.
     
  17. GoldBug999

    GoldBug999 Well-Known Member

    Can you post photos of the obverse and reverse?
     
  18. Danomite

    Danomite What do you say uh-huh

    Interesting. What kind of AT process could make the wavy color difference?
     
  19. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    NO. Coin long gone. Use your imagination. -;)

    ??? When I meet the coin doctor, I'll ask him/her. BTW, anytime you see a SHARP break in toning, haze, color, etc. with evidence of "flow", check for a possible chemical alteration.

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  20. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    To be fair, he didn't say "placed" he said "dropped" in a shallow dip. The careless manner of inserting the coin in the dip could easily create a wave in the liquid yielding and uneven dip on the edge. Since the person dipping the coin only cared about removing the toning on the face, his carelessness of inserting the coin in the solution seems likely.

    PS, these are fun but wouldn't it be better to show us photos of the entire coin rather than just one small section. In this instance, I would very much like to see the "very colorful toning JOB."
     
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  21. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Yes, that toning is hinky. The edge of the toned/untoned area should not be jagged like that, the color progression (yellow-magenta-cyan) is incorrect, and the elevation chromatics (toning creep over devices) are poor. All heavy indicators of artificial toning.
     
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