1974 quarter error

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Avery G., Jun 11, 2020.

  1. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I found this coin in pocket change. I know that there is only one known example of the 1970 quarter struck on 1941 canadian. Look on reverse above dollar, there is a visible 1941. Can anyone else see the 1941 above dollar?

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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    That would be on a 1941 Silver Proof Canadian o_O

    Is your quarter silver or clad?
    That will give you your answer!
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Pareidolia (/pærɪˈdoʊliə/ parr-i-DOH-lee-ə) is the tendency for incorrect perception of a stimulus as an object, pattern or meaning known to the observer, such as seeing shapes in clouds, seeing faces in inanimate objects or abstract patterns, or hearing hidden messages in music. Pareidolia can be considered a subcategory of apophenia.
     
  5. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Pareidolia is a wondrous thing.
     
  6. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    The 1970 that was found could have been seen as pareidolia, until it was authenticated. I am in the process of having the coin checked. I don't believe it's pareidolia. Thanks!
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    well, I will be glad to be wrong

    good luck
     
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  8. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    There is no other strike on or under that quarter, sorry.

    As mentioned, Numismatic Pareidolia -
     
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  9. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    If you have the money to waste then do it..
    It's your prerogative :inpain:
     
  11. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    Really simple first step, as Paddyman said, check to see if it is clad or silver.
     
  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I can't see any dates on the reverse where you pointed it out. You have a normal clad quarter that's worth $.25 cents. Any cost to have this checked out is a waste of money.
     
  13. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Take a minute and think this through. The 1970S quarter was overstruck on a 1941 silver Canadian Quarter. It was pretty easy to see that the coin wasn't struck on a clad planchet. (BTW. That coin wasn't a circulation find. It had "help" from someone at the mint. Read the story behind it).

    Now, your coin is struck on a standard clad planchet, which wasn't introduced until 1965. If it's really struck over a coin that was dated 1941 why is it on a clad planchet? Do you have an explanation on how a coin could be struck on in a planchet that didn't exist until 24 years later??? Heck, convincing us that the random circulation marks look like 1941 will be lot easier than explaining the clad planchet.
     
  14. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    I have looked at hundreds of quarters, various years and this is the first I've seen with a 1941 visible on reverse in the same location as the 1970. The 1970 wasn't struck until 29 years later. How did the 1941 get in the mint 29 years later? Pretty sure there are undiscovered errors out there. Thanks guys!
     
  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    There probably are undiscovered errors in circulation but this ain't one of them.
     
  16. Avery G.

    Avery G. Active Member

    That's your opinion.
     
  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Yes it is and you asked for it by starting this thread. You are entitled to yours and I'm entitled to mine. I gave you mine and you gave me yours. What's the problem? We can agree to disagree.
     
  18. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Avery, you need to do a little research. As I said in a previous post, the 1970-S PROOF quarter that was struck over a 1941 Canadian quarter is on a silver planchet, not a clad planchet used for proof quarters. A clandestine mint employee put a 1941 Canadian quarter into the press, struck in with a proof die, and smuggled it out of the mint. There were a number of Spectacular proof errors that came from the San Francisco mint in the early 70s including 2 proof quarters struck on Barber Quarters (one was dated 1900).

    The 1941 Canadian overstrike and a number of others were found in a safety deposit box. I'm not positive, but I recall reading that the box may have been seized as assets from a drug bust. The Secret Service evaluated the errors and allowed the State of CA to proceed with the auction (I also believe that Fred Weinberg attended the auction). There were a number of articles in the numismatic periodicals and if you read them, you'll see that the overwhelming opinion is that these errors "had help" being made and leaving the mint. None were circulation finds.

    Once again, think about your coin. It is struck on a clad quarter planchet. The absolute first thing you need to do is explain how the 1941 undertype coin was minted on a clad planchet. They didn't exist in 1941. I'll say it again in case you missed it. Clad planchets didn't exist in 1941. Don't even bother making comments like "it looks like a 1941" or "undiscovered errors are out there" to justify your conclusion. Your ignoring the 600 lb gorilla in the room, HOW COULD THE ORIGINAL 1941 UNDERTYPE COIN BE STRUCK ON A CLAD PLANCHET?

    You recently posted some nice errors recently. Nice finds and you knew what they were. it's time to stop claiming that you found the equivalent of Bigfoot in your garage and arguing when people don't believe you
     
  19. frankjg

    frankjg Well-Known Member

    By whom?
     
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  20. KingofAirs

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  21. KingofAirs

    KingofAirs New Member

    The no God's have spoken so surely it can't be. Always the same thing so quick to dismiss or make fun of. Well let me tell you Congratulations because you do have the error in question. Ever since I first heard of the 2 different errors Mike Beyers had I've been fascinated and set out to find out if there were others. Yes there are others that I have found ranging in years. One thing I've learned over time is a quick easy way to verify this error. All you have to do is check the obverse of the coin and if it's there your golden and your golden. It's easy to spot like alot of errors and to be a good error hunter all you have to do is open your eyes. There are alot of blind people making comments some rude but definitely not inviting to a person who is just trying to get a little help and the majority of the time these are the response you get. For those who have made such comments you should not call yourself numismatics. Every coin collector should feel welcome here and your basically calling him stupid well the jokes on you. That coin is Silver and it is struck over a 41. If you have trouble with the grading companies submit as an off metal error- Silver. That'll make it easier. I have 2 I am sending off tomorrow. One is an proof66 1954 quarter and the other is a Bicentennial quarter and another coin joining the bunch is a 1977 Silver quarter struck on a Bicentennial planchet. Ok that's enuff have a good night. The KingofAirs
     
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