Guess The Grade: 1926-S

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Phoenix21, Nov 10, 2008.

  1. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    chill out folks
     
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  3. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    Some dates have nice strong Bold Strikes, while others have very mushy strikes. Depression era coins commonly have mushy strikes. The mint just let the dies go too far gone, probably because the cent is so mass produced.
    The coin Phoenix posted, is a rather nice example for the date. Sure the strike is mushy, but better than most for the date. I personally think that is a beautiful coin.
    As far as it being cracked out..... Well....... Maybe that was a bad idea, but Im sure Phoenix wanted to be able to put the coin in his album. He also mentioned that he wanted to take care of some verdigis or whatever was on the coin.
     
  4. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Ruben, please read my post over again, or read this one totally. I did NOT break it out of the slab with the intention of returning it. I broke it out because it had a spot of corrosion on it, and I'm very picky when it comes to that. I don't want any corrosion on my Lincolns, otherwise it is a problem coin. It was the best thing to break that coin out of the slab, because of the corrosion, as the coin was covered. And I don't mean spots here and there, I mean in the jacket, around lettering, etc.

    Now in defense of Jack totally, that stuff for some reason was "invisible" while it was in the slab, where the spot I saw on the 2 in the date, and I think another spot were all I could find with a 14x loupe, and they might not have been there when Jack examined the coin (the corrosion did not eat into the coin yet though, so it was fairly new IMHO). Jack is not at all to blame. I'm saying this though to clear my name, as it seems that there is confusion going on. I had no intentions of returning it when I broke it out.

    And I didn't even ask Jack for a refund now, he made the offer. But when I broke it out, I was wanting to keep it, otherwise I wouldn't have broken it out. Why would I have broken it out, if I had intentions of returning it? Why would I care about helping a coin that's not going into my collection, other than saving the coin from problems? I knew full and well that if I cracked it out, it would be "un-returnable", and I accepted that.

    But Jack made the offer, and I was pointing out and applauding Jack publicy for his kindness, and generousity. Please read this post entirely, (and everyone else), as I don't want Jack to have any marks on his name, but I don't want any on mine either.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  5. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    I'm not trying to get between you and Jack or make judgements about either of you :)

    I was just putting out some facts, I was just hoping to enlighten some of the aspects of this and asked the same question you did here. You gave a good answer.

    Ruben
     
  6. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Okay man, I guess I took it wrong. :) I'm sorry about getting defensive like that, lol.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  7. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    chill out folks
    lets call it a done deal

    Most would not refund a crack out, and Tyler is not at trying to get something over. My only rule is this. I will not sell I coin I would not buy.

    IF, he is not happy, it an easy return. Nothing else to read here. Move along. Nothing to see.

    Would I do this at a show? No. Once sold and cracked, it's sold.

    The issue here is can a YN learn. The answer is yes. Lets say Tyler was lucky, I was in a good mood today, I would not do this for anybody else, except for another CT'er. It is not buyers remorse ( I am dealing with that on a very expensive coin as well, different day, different story).

    We all, as sellers and collectors must try to learn from EVERY transaction. Every single coin must make us that slight one bit sharper than the last.

    My advise?
    Learn your series and learn it well. Know the dates and know them well. AND, know your deal in advance....returns....slabability, restock fee, postage, costs. Make no deal blind. Know who you are dealing with.

    All you folks are more worried about this than I am. I just want the OP happy, AND, I want to save my " cred" here on the forum. I dont think I am doing anything any of you would not do if you had a kid not happy with a coin you sold him.

    Please, for me and for Tyler, lets let this thread rest.
     
  8. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    You have to consider though, 1920s Lincolns are not the best of that series to base your opinion on. I know your not a fan of the series and that's fine, but those dates are well known to be poorly struck. That is the same with many series' of coins...for example, New Orleans minted Morgan's typically have the same problem.
     
  9. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    To me the problems with New Orlean Morgans are half as bad an Lincolns.

    Out of curiosity though, what are the good years for Lincolns? Certainly not from 1960 to the 1995. The zincs are better struck now with the new design, but they are zinc and look like a women with a face lift. Not the 1920's?

    Ruben
     
  10. DJP7x0s

    DJP7x0s Sometimes Coins Arouse Me

    The Teens have some exceptional strikes
     
  11. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    You know, I'm honestly not sure...as I'm not an expert with the set. I know there are some really well struck years though. I'm sure Jack or RLM would know.
     
  12. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    1909, 1915, 1916, and 1917 I think are the best years, with sharp detail.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  13. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I thought the teens were good but I wasn't sure. Anyway, here is an example I saved from a long time ago. This coin was graded MS-69RD by PCGS and I believe is the finest 1919 ever graded by PCGS. This strike on this coin is very nice. Unfortunately, this is not in my collection...and is probably more valuable than my whole collection:
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  14. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    well, this coin has been around for a 100 years and 3 - 5 years seem to be the best strikes.

    But even that 1919 has interesting ear anatomy ;)

    Ruben
     
  15. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Ruben,
    Look at the 1917 cents. IMHO, they are absolutely the best, most detailed Lincolns ever struck. There are 4 locks of hair over Lincolns ear and discernible hair in Lincoln's beard. I know of no other year you can count them and most years you have no idea there is anything there except a blob. 1916 - 1919 were all good years for Lincolns and some even into the twenties (Philadelphia only). By the end of the twenties, all evidence of hair in the beard disappeared never to return until they put that spaghetti in his modern beard.
     
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