Featured The sceattas of early Anglo-Saxon England

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  1. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your additions to the thread.

    I very much like your type 10 and hope to acquire one like it at some point!
     
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  3. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    In the last year or two I’ve picked up some interesting East Anglian types:

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  4. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    These coins don’t exactly give Greek or even Roman coins a run for their money... the artistry is lacking the refinement of the classical world and later Renaissance. But the variety of designs, insertion of Christian symbolism with remnants of pre-Christianity, and simplicity of details, with hints (but only hints) of artistic merit, is so representative of what we know as the Middle Ages.
     
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  5. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Nap, these coins made my jaw drop. This is the type of collection I one day hope to have for myself. Until then, I'll just admire yours. I would be most thankful if you could write down the series and subtypes of your sceats for further reference, if possible!

    Meanwhile, could you perhaps look at my latest additions? It's a humble series G, but I can't find a comparable type anywhere online; below is my own identification:
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    ANGLO-SAXON, Anonymous. Denomination: AR Sceatta (Secondairy phase, continental, series G), minted: England; 710/5-720
    Obv: Diademed bust, wearing torque, facing to the right. Cross-pommé in front, three pellets below. Dotted border around
    Rev: Standard with four crosses pommé, pellets in between, in center annulet with pellet inside, within dotted square border. Around pellets with crosses in each quadrant (two visible)
    Weight: 1.21g; Ø:12mm. Catalogue: . Provenance: Found near Maastricht, the Netherlands; acq.: 05-2020

    Do you know the subtype? Or could it be a local imitation (note that it was found in the Netherlands, near Maastricht). Thanks in advance!
     
  6. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    The literature about these types has changed. Series G was once thought to be completely English with a few continental imitations. Now it’s thought to be continental in origin, probably from Quentovic. There are some that are very debased like yours.

    I have these two examples-

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  7. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    A few more types I haven’t previously shown

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    Series A

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    Series C var.

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    Series V

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    Series S

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    Series U

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    Series M var.

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    SEDE type

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    Series K/N mule
     
  8. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Wow! These are phenomenal! Especially the toning and strong strike of the series A. The series M var was from a recent timeline auction, wasn’t it? I was eyeballing this one (or a similar one) but am not familiar enough with the series to decide whether genuine or not: I couldn’t find a similar one. Did you find one?
     
  9. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    You are correct with regards to the origin of the series M. It was in that recent auction and I'm sure I paid way too much. I do not have any particular reason to doubt the authenticity. The variety is known from other examples on the Early Medieval Corpus and is described in Tony Abramson's book on sceattas.
     
  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Wonderful.

    I need another someday. I sold the one I had when it failed to straight-grade at PCGS. It was still a lovely little thing.
     
  11. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I had tentatively ID'd my similar coin as a slightly odd looking series O type 40 (there are a couple on PAS ID'd as such) but I guess I'm wrong about that, as it seems a close match to what you're calling a series K/N mule. Here's mine:
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    What's known about these? Do they have an Abramson ID#? (Thanks, @Nap !!)
     
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  12. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    Yours looks like a K/N mule.
    Yours is Abramson 37-20. Mine is 37-40.

    Series O Type 40 is similar but the figure is facing forward and the style of the monster is more of a creature in motion (?flying)

    Here is my series O type 40
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  13. Nap

    Nap Well-Known Member

    They are addictive and of very interesting designs. I collect later coins as well and even dabble in ancients but there’s something that draws me to these archaic early medieval pieces.

    Many of my coins would not straight grade at PCGS. It goes with the territory with medieval coins that typically are dug out of the ground.
     
  14. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Thanks, @Nap! I had noticed the stylistic difference from series O but wasn’t aware of the mules. I think there may be some ID mistakes for sceatta in the PAS!
     
  15. toto1964

    toto1964 New Member

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    Hello, avez vous une idée pour celle ci?
     
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