To star or not to star - official game thread

Although I like the coin very much I don't think it got the *.

 

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So, I suck at guessing stars and beans, who'd have thought.

 

It’s a travesty that Jefferson doesn’t have a star.

 

Summary:
Rd. 1: 1955-S MS 64 1c (NO Star) --> Should it star? -->Yes: 2 vs No: 11

Rd. 2: 1885-O MS 65 $1 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 3: 1813 50c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 9

Rd. 4: 1835 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

Rd. 5: 1821 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 4

Rd. 6: 1947-D 5c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 6 vs No: 2

Rd. 7: 1882-S $1 MS 63 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 8

Rd. 8: 1882-S $1 MS 67 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 8

Rd. 9: Darth Morgan (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 10: 1820 Cent (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Rd. 11: Swiss Silver (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

Rd. 12: 1940 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 13: Israel Lira (NO Star*^) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 0

Rd. 14: 1937-D 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:2 vs No: 0

Rd. 15: 1885 Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 12

Rd. 16: 1958-D Franklin (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 7

Rd. 17: 1958-D Franklin #2 (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

Rd. 18: 1958-D Franklin #3 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

Rd. 19: 1881-S Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:4 vs No: 3

Rd. 20: 1884-O Morgan (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

Rd. 21: 1874 PF Trade Dollar (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

Rd. 22: 1964 Kennedy (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 7

Rd. 23: 1958-D Franklin (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:6 vs No: 3

Rd. 24: San Diego Commem (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 5

Rd. 25: 1886 $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 7 vs No: 0

Rd. 26: 1887 $1 (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 7

Rd. 27: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 28: 1963 PF 5c (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 0

Rd. 29: 1968 PF 50c (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 30: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

Rd. 31: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 3

Rd. 32: 1886 $1 (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Rd. 33: 1882-S $1 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 6

Rd. 34: 1887 $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 6

Rd. 35: 1900 India Rupee (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 3

Rd. 36: 1880-S $1 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 8 vs No: 0

Rd. 37: 1918 Lincoln 50c (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 8

Rd. 38: 1886 Morgan MS 65 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 7

Rd. 39: 1884-O Morgan MS 65 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 8

Rd. 40: Ireland 1/2D PR 63 (PCGS coin)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Rd. 41: 1949 Swiss Medal MS 65 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 3

Rd. 42: 1830 AU 50 50c (PCGS coin)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 3 vs No: 2

Rd. 43: 1881-S Morgan (No star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 4

Rd. 44: 1904-O Morgan (No star*^)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

Rd. 45: 1964 PF Kennedy (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 9

Rd. 46: 1884-O Morgan MS 63 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 7

Rd. 47: 1892 Columbian MS 64 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 48: 1974 Silver Ike PF 69 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 49: 1928 Peace $1 (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

Rd. 50: 1950-D Jefferson 5c (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 6 vs No: 2

Rd. 51: 1913 GB Penny (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

Rd. 52: 1813 Isle of Man 1/2P (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 3

Rd. 53: 1920 Canada Cent (PCGS) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 54: Morocco 100F (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 55: 1963 Ireland (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 4

Rd. 56: 1964 Kennedy 50c MS 64 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 6

Rd. 57: 1942-S Jefferson 5c MS67 (No Star)—> Should it star?—> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

Totals:
No Star currently on holder, but deserves it: 12
No Star currently on holder and doesn't deserve it: 19
Star currently on holder and deserves it: 9
Star currently on holder, but doesn't deserve it: 14
PCGS holder, but deserves it upon crossover: 1
PCGS holder and doesn't deserve it upon crossover: 2

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Non-toned/PL category:
~ 1871 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 1
~ 1960 1c PF68 CAM (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4
~ 1881 (P) $1 MS 62 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 7 vs No: 1
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*^ = signifies a coin that was most likely graded before the star designation was used for its respective series

 

Since nobody posted anything I'll go ahead. Here's a 1955 proof 69 Franklin half. Star or no star?

 

No star

 

NO STAR
...reverse doesn’t look cameo and obverse just missed being cameo

 

I’ll give it a star for obverse cameo but missing it on the reverse.

 

I'll give you A Star.

 

no star

 

Anyone else want to guess?

 

I'll do the reveal this evening to let any stragglers take their shot.

 

No star

 

I just purchased the 1955 Franklin to complete my birth year proof set. It did get a star from NGC. IMO it was marginal; the obverse is marginally cameo. I've seen better 69* examples but those sold for several hundred dollars more than what I paid.

 

Summary:
Rd. 1: 1955-S MS 64 1c (NO Star) --> Should it star? -->Yes: 2 vs No: 11

Rd. 2: 1885-O MS 65 $1 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 3: 1813 50c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 9

Rd. 4: 1835 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

Rd. 5: 1821 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 4

Rd. 6: 1947-D 5c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 6 vs No: 2

Rd. 7: 1882-S $1 MS 63 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 8

Rd. 8: 1882-S $1 MS 67 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 8

Rd. 9: Darth Morgan (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 10: 1820 Cent (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Rd. 11: Swiss Silver (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

Rd. 12: 1940 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 13: Israel Lira (NO Star*^) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 0

Rd. 14: 1937-D 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:2 vs No: 0

Rd. 15: 1885 Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 12

Rd. 16: 1958-D Franklin (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 7

Rd. 17: 1958-D Franklin #2 (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

Rd. 18: 1958-D Franklin #3 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

Rd. 19: 1881-S Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:4 vs No: 3

Rd. 20: 1884-O Morgan (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

Rd. 21: 1874 PF Trade Dollar (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

Rd. 22: 1964 Kennedy (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 7

Rd. 23: 1958-D Franklin (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:6 vs No: 3

Rd. 24: San Diego Commem (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 5

Rd. 25: 1886 $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 7 vs No: 0

Rd. 26: 1887 $1 (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 7

Rd. 27: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 28: 1963 PF 5c (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 0

Rd. 29: 1968 PF 50c (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 30: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

Rd. 31: 1880-S $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 3

Rd. 32: 1886 $1 (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Rd. 33: 1882-S $1 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 6

Rd. 34: 1887 $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 6

Rd. 35: 1900 India Rupee (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 3

Rd. 36: 1880-S $1 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 8 vs No: 0

Rd. 37: 1918 Lincoln 50c (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 8

Rd. 38: 1886 Morgan MS 65 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 7

Rd. 39: 1884-O Morgan MS 65 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 8

Rd. 40: Ireland 1/2D PR 63 (PCGS coin)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Rd. 41: 1949 Swiss Medal MS 65 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 3

Rd. 42: 1830 AU 50 50c (PCGS coin)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 3 vs No: 2

Rd. 43: 1881-S Morgan (No star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 4

Rd. 44: 1904-O Morgan (No star*^)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

Rd. 45: 1964 PF Kennedy (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 9

Rd. 46: 1884-O Morgan MS 63 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 7

Rd. 47: 1892 Columbian MS 64 (No Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 48: 1974 Silver Ike PF 69 (Star)—> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 49: 1928 Peace $1 (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

Rd. 50: 1950-D Jefferson 5c (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 6 vs No: 2

Rd. 51: 1913 GB Penny (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

Rd. 52: 1813 Isle of Man 1/2P (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 3

Rd. 53: 1920 Canada Cent (PCGS) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 54: Morocco 100F (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 55: 1963 Ireland (No Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 4

Rd. 56: 1964 Kennedy 50c MS 64 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 6

Rd. 57: 1942-S Jefferson 5c MS67 (No Star)—> Should it star?—> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

Totals:
No Star currently on holder, but deserves it: 12
No Star currently on holder and doesn't deserve it: 19
Star currently on holder and deserves it: 9
Star currently on holder, but doesn't deserve it: 14
PCGS holder, but deserves it upon crossover: 1
PCGS holder and doesn't deserve it upon crossover: 2

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Non-toned/PL/Cameo category:
~ 1871 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 1
~ 1960 1c PF68 CAM (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4
~ 1881 (P) $1 MS 62 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 7 vs No: 1
~ 1955 50c PF69 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 4
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*^ = signifies a coin that was most likely graded before the star designation was used for its respective series

 

Floor is open...

 

So far the numbers are interesting. There have been 27 coins submitted with the star designation. The total votes have been: YES - 77, NO - 111; with only 3 unanimous YES coins and 4 unanimous NO coins. Assuming that those of us who have participated are representative of the greater numismatic population, in general, a coin with the star designation shouldn't be interpreted as being special/superior to coins without the star designation; it is a highly subjective designation.

 

I agree that a star does not automatically make a coin special. I've seen plenty that seemed questionable at best (and not ones I'd personally pay any premium for-even though they do end up selling for more than a generic non-star example).

I've also noticed-especially with Morgans-that it is very rare that a high end toned coin does not receive a star (there are examples but mostly NGC appropriately stars the high end and monster toners).

Also, some of the results here are biased. Some (and that includes a few of my postings) are cherry-picked. So this thread likely has a higher percentage of questionably assigned and unassigned stars.

 

I agree with your statement about the bias in this thread. To be more scientific we could randomly show coins from various auction photos and evaluate them. My guess, or hypothesis, would mirror what we've seen in this thread, that as a population, most people would not give a star to one that got that designation from NGC.

I should have added, for the 29 NGC coins without a star the numbers were: YES - 78, NO - 143.