My first panda

Got this at my local weekly coin shop auction. I don't normally collect foreign coins, but this one is great looking.

 

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Aww, what a cute teddy bear Joe, what'cha name it?


stainless

 

Spock Jr.

 

I wana get some more pandas

 

They are rather nice LOL here are a couple of mine

 

DeOrc.... Nice pandas! I like them all. Is that toning on your first panda?

 

No it is some sort of process aplied by the mint, I also have another panda like that and a Australian Kookabura

 

I just posted almost this same thread....

 

http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?t=43334#post454407

 

Have you seen the China Unicorn coins yet? You may just want a couple of those too. :eat:

Then there's those Kookaburras from Australia and the lovely Koala Bear. :hug:

So many beautiful world coins, so few dollars....... *sigh* :whistle:

 

http://www.pandacollector.com/silver-pandas-2.html

 

http://lynncoins.net/index.php?l=product_detail&p=224

 

this might have been the guys I got t from

http://cgi.ebay.com/2008-SILVER-PAN...mZ130262778682QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

 

Nice. The panda is definitely on my list of coins to buy.

 

http://www.usstatequarters.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=5755&idcategory=0

 

anyone ever see this?

http://www.china-mint.info/fakechinesecoinsellers.html

11/07/2008

Ebay ID:
mystery309 (US) 120326841179, 120323653363, 110306305368, 110304199363, 120325683861, 110303872217, 120316752645, 110301027133, 110301032687, 120319883380, 110300139088, 110297453703, 120314189685, 110297744387, 120315624981, 120316858613, 120315629789, 120313720306, 120318323561, 120316843128, 120317487702, 120318385595, 110300241291... and more
gemmerich (US) 220295932220, 220295932141, 220295932346
4410lvoer (Hong Kong) 220306214207, 220306214233, 220306222562, 220306214175, 220306222419, 220307380898, 220307380924, 220307380955, 220307381016, 220307381065... and more!
8600fu (China) 270293566852, 270292070234, 270290237631, 270289619121, 270290235966, 270289665784, 270289668164, 270289304392, 270290241455, 270290236888... and more
abcd198101 (China) 280281646889, 280277107776, 280277106819, 280277106264, 280277103948
art_exquisite2009 (China) 260300920691, 260303139188, 260303134025, 260303133130, 260303132095, 260302531184
bbsbbs2008 (China) 180300225265, 180300221340, 180300223527, 180300222168, 180300229220, 180300226285, 180300714885, 180300715311, 180300714885... and more
beijing_618 (China) 260309161875, 260303650401, 260303652000, 260304602045, 260303384149, 260303388779, 260303388766, 260303649900...nothing real.
cdlcdl06 (China) 250318222405, 250317151466, 250317483959, 250317633382, 250317924435, 250316952067, 250317150107, 250317115545, 250317653958, 250316950507, 250317483541...nothing real.
chenawei2008 (China) 260298736621, 260301601037, 260301599515
chenxinruyi2008 (China) 180299015432, 180298480162, 180298480176, 180298500235, 180298498763, 180299016589, 180299026087... and more
cmtiont (Hong Kong) 320309265997
criptyec (Hong Kong) 170273198170, 170272637393, 170272936673, 170272937191, 170272636186, 170272945336... and more
daisuhua_072588 (China) 320309612886
fengxinmeizi (China) 180299403390, 180299169561, 180299405990, 180298759252, 180299614764, 180299787493
fdfoweio88 (China) 270296167355, 270294953502, 270294955063, 270295105152, 270295101166, 270295052143, 270295211030, 270295594766, 270295208064... tons of fakes
gaisiodeff (China) 170269819759, 170273221857, 170273460528, 170273460530, 170273460535, 170273221710, 170273460562, 170273460554, 170273460544, 170273221811, 170273221866, 170273221724...
qv_guangmei (China) 170274523099, 170274532504, 170274531078
h04hkj8 (Hong Kong) 250313121816, 250313116246, 250313117795, 250313120014, 250313114087, 250313130595, 250313125608... tons of fakes
helloxianggang (China) 250307728951, 250297786216
hezhiwen20088 (China) 220293137051, 220297299431, 220297957080, 220298697751
hnzhw2008 (China) 220294934154, 220298738121, 220298732540, 220301914842
hongmao5182008 (China) 180301635141, 180298619895, 180300421463, 180300058926, 180300083350, 180300702115... tons of fakes
ijnuhn987 (China) 280281468603, 280281468608, 280281468568, 280280963060, 280281209655, 280281206545, 280281206530, 280280962183, 280280962175, 280281206502, 280280962165... and more
kennysky34 (Hong Kong) 170276616525, 170277202035, 170277202047, 170277200769, 170277200776, 170277200752, 170277200746, 170277119244, 170277116683, 170277119268, 170277119314... tons of fakes
keveripn (Hong Kong) 250319980788, 250320987481, 250319980890, 250320987462, 250319991777, 250319991737, 250320987439, 250320987350, 250320987274, 250320987330, 250320987242... nothing real.
klocklushe (Hong Kong) 180303264443, 180302785451, 180302972656, 180302972401, 180302785457, 180303035192, 180302972664, 180302972662, 180302972660
legend5118 (China) 400004682028, 170273609144, 170273609484, 170272934728, 170272926193, 170272928583, 170272933635, 170273443621
liver_alv (Hong Kong) 250320085757, 250320889175, 250320081914, 250320086206, 250320083310... tons of fakes. This guy is also selling fake U.S. Morgan Dollars!
madeadxy (China) 250315426829, 250314482733, 250314848585, 250315114498, 250315117357, 250315120710, 250314035291, 250315278216... and more
mskk222 (China) Banned by Ebay(11/08) 320311648510, 320311153820, 320311151926, 320311149270, 320311139670, 320311646281, 320311648510, 320311635122... nothing real!
pd3366ft (China) 260295317206, 260299884953, 260299884943, 260299884651
panan_fir (Hong Kong) 180299421372, 180299423573, 180299608962, 180299427829, 180299631081, 180299668799, 180299668808, 180299609610... and more
pbo_bois (Hong Kong) 170273667119, 170273238369, 170272988971, 170273379996, 170273160421, 170273240524, 170273400281, 170273400731... and more
pie7781331 (Hong Kong) 220295614820, 220295602024, 220295578568, 220295569983, 220297109258, 220297600023... and more
psujyiyy (China) 220307513364, 220306488726, 220306489125, 220306485428, 220305876063, 220306492089... and more
qqainidfooo (China) 280279671283, 280279479771, 280279626644, 280279360200, 280279404623, 280279183828, 280279671345, 280279666961, 280279666878, 280279645734... and more
shi_xiaomemg (China) 260301749861, 260302024181, 260303623280, 260303448124, 260302623716... and more
shriot7tn (Hong Kong) Banned by Ebay(11/08) 170272413544, 170272405350, 170272407133, 170272406786, 170272405760, 170272420749, 170272421755... nothing real!
shunxinruyi1985 (China) 260303630963, 260302183850, 260302530011, 260302534884, 260302529834, 260302185661, 260302663808, 260302663430, 260302663139, 260302662140... and more
shuyuan12688 (China) 280280366161, 280280164367, 280280175345, 280279926912, 280280099451... and more
songlihui999 (China) 320311499148, 320311497904, 320312138219
wan2002aa (ID changed to hello51999) (China) 170271688593, 170268988382, 170272935581, 170272935644, 170273134066, 170273665344... and more
wuzhou63 (China) 280278829308, 280278878112, 280278828996, 280280441854, 280279708968, 280279708685, 280279935580, 280279709758, 280279709164, 280279935290, 280279935283, 280279935344, 280280127094... and more
xuejian71162008 (China) 170272130417, 170272130288, 170272127188, 170272126388, 170272125299, 170272416580, 170272856587... nothing real!
zhawen198688 (China) 280277840361, 280277840361, 280277840168, 250312261092, 280278878112
zhenhui20082008 (China) 320310908777, 320310902765, 320311304730, 320311375659
zhipx (China) 260310746163, 260310756240, 260310758363, 260310756971
This guy is also selling fake NGC graded Morgan Dollars! Buyer beware!

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Dangerous Chinese "Sellers"

by lapidary2 (Ebay Member) updated Oct. 16 2008

One eBayer has already written a note about these but last night there was a spate of these crooks on eBay, mainly selling coins, totaling more than 100 items.

Experienced buyers often recognize these crooks but not always and the crooks are becoming more devious; so I have decided to write this guide to help you recognize these crooks and avoid financial loss.

Their current strategy is to create about 10 fake accounts, sell to these accounts and then create the illusion of a positive rating of 10. As far as payment is concerned, they used to use the Western Union trick - you can never get your money back - NEVER use Western Union. However, they are now using PayPal who will take no action to close these accounts - I know because I phoned them and they were simply not interested. So, you may or may not be covered by PayPal.

You should next look closely at what they have supposedly sold and then ask yourself whether it makes any sense that they are now selling a plethora of rare coins.

These listings are usually for one day only - a practice that a real seller would not use as it would limit the number of bids likely to be received. These crooks use this because eBay Safe Harbor is so hopelessly slow that the crooks do stand a real chance of succeeding with their theft.

Many of these listings also offer a ludicrously cheap Buy It Now option - again, you have to ask yourself "would a real seller need to do this?"

If bidding has got under way - often these crooks are so incompetent that the listing is laughable and is ignored by everyone - look at who is bidding and look at their track record from their feedback. Even knowledgeable people can get caught but generally, you will notice that the regular bidders are not bidding for these offers.

Sometimes these crooks manage to match their incompetence with their enthusiasm and you will see them offering the same rare item in several different listings!

Often a search for the item on eBay will also find you the original listing that was stolen by these crooks and you will be able to see from the photographs that these have been stolen.

If you are suspicious, you can always try to contact one of their so-called previous buyers and another technique is to ask for a new picture of the item. A real seller will invariably oblige.

As of today, 11 July 2006, the crooks are back and this time, they are using a zero rating instead of constructing 10 or so fake positives. My opinion now is that you should not buy coins from ANYONE in China who is not yet established and is showing a low or zero rating - there is almost certainly nothing there for you.

If you do discover this activity please help others as I do by telling them of the fraud, before they part with their money and also pester eBay to get them to remove the fake seller.

When I wrote this, I was pleased to see this activity appear to die down but in April 2008, I have received emails from other eBayers telling me that it is still going on and that, as usual, eBay is doing nothing about it, sales are going through to completion and buyers are losing money. I do now feel that the only way you can protect yourself is by ignoring all Chinese sellers of assorted junk jewellery, artifacts and coins irrespective of their ratings.
Summary and Conclusions

1. Look at the seller's payment procedures
2. Look at the seller's feedback and ask yourself whether it makes sense.
3. Look at what they have bought and sold - can they possibly have the items they are offering for sale? If they have more than one of a rare item, they are almost certainly crooked
4. Ignore one-day listings
5. Ignore offers with unnecessary and cheap Buy It Now options
6. Look at the background of the bidders. As a general rule the experienced ones can spot these frauds
7. Do a search for the item on eBay - they are often still available for sale from the real seller
8. Contact previous buyers to check out the seller
9. Ask the seller for new pictures of the item or items for sale
10. Simply, do not buy from any Chinese sellers, with the possible exception of a couple of photographic and hi-fi dealers
11. Help other eBayers by reporting the fraud to eBay and by emailing the unwary bidders because eBay will ignore you

Finally, you can get bargains on eBay but ask yourself whether the bargain makes any sense to you before you part with your money.

 

Beautiful Coin....

Here are all the Pandas you will ever need!!

I once bought from these folks many years ago...sold all my foreign conis except a few!

Had to let a little more light into my world at the time...
www.pandaamerica.com

RickieB

 

never mind - yeah that site has Panda's slabbed and the 08 for 45 dollar.

Ruben

 

Click on the Coins Tab and you can select from coins all over the world! It is a Dark Side site for sure!!


RickieB

 

Very nice link! Thanks Ricky. I haven't had a chance to really look at it, but I will.