A Poor Man's Cleopatra

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  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here is my VERY humble Cleo VII:

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    Cleopatra VII, Queen of Egypt, 51-30 BCE.
    AE 40 drachmai; 21.0 mm; 7.32 gm.
    Alexandria mint, 51-30 BCE.
    Obv: Diademed head of Cleopatra, hair in bun at back of head, facing right.
    Rev: [ΚΛΕΟΠΑΤΡΑΣ ΒΑΣΙΛΙΣΣΗΣ], eagle standing left on thunderbolt, double cornucopiae in field to left, M (for 40) to right.
    Refs: Sear Greek 7956; Svoronos 1872; BMC 6; Vagi 212; Forrer 110.
     
  4. cmezner

    cmezner do ut des Supporter

    Particularly, the reverse looks usually very worn on these drachms :-(

    My two Cleopatras:

    Æ Half-unit (40 Drachms), Alexandria, 51 - 30 BC
    20 mm, 7.805 g
    SNG Copenhagen 422-424; Svoronos 1872

    Ob.: Diademed and draped bust of Cleopatra to r.
    Rev.: ΚΛΕOΠΑΤΡΑΣ ΒΑΣΙΛΙΣΣΗΣ; Eagle standing left on thunderbolt; cornucopiae to left, M (= 40) in right field.
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    and this one; it should also be an Æ Half-unit, but I keep seeing Π instead of an M in the right field of the reverse; maybe I need a good pair of glasses or some forger turned an M into a Π:confused:

    21 x 22 mm, 7.457 g
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  5. Aaron Apfel

    Aaron Apfel Active Member

    Lovely coins, its crazy how expensive these are considering how worn they often are!
     
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  6. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

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  7. ycon

    ycon Renaissance Man

    My own humble, but much loved, Cleo & Antony fourree:

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  8. eparch

    eparch Well-Known Member

    @AncientJoe ,@Volodya - splendid coins.

    My example is a small bronze from Syria. Chalkis and the Ituraean Tetrarchy were given to Cleopatra in 37 B.C. by Antony after defeating the local dynast.
    It is dated 32/31 B.C. so may well be the last portrait of her before her death. These are quite rare in decent condition, so I was pleased to find one.
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    Coele-Syria, Chalcis ad Libanum, M. Antonius and Cleopatra VII (32-31 BC), Æ, 19.5mm, Syria, Chalcis Mint, 6.05g,

    BACIΛICCAC KΛЄOΠATPAC Draped bust of Cleopatra to right, wearing stephane
    ЄTOYC KA TOY KAI ς ΘЄAC NЄωTEPAC Bare head of Antony to right

    (RPC I, 4771; Rouvier 440 (Berytus); Sofaer 43; SNG [Copenhagen] 382 - Phoenicia),
    HGC 9 1451
     
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  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I studied at UCLA for a total of 3 degrees and never knew the classics Dept had a coin collection.

    Ironically, I even worked at the Young Research Library and never knew about the classics library.

    Maybe its time to take a visit and go hunting...
     
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  10. Robichari

    Robichari Active Member

    Another poor mans Cleopatra. Only 160 usd ;P
    80 drachmai or diobol, 17.35 g.
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  11. Cherd

    Cherd Junior Member

    By my standards, this Cleopatra 80 Drachmae was a bit of a splurge. I suppose I'd categorize this one as a "Lower-Middle-Class Man's Cleo" ;)

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  12. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    This one was struck at Tripoli- Phoenicia. Reverse shows Nike standing by a Phoenician ship. It reads Tripoliton in Greek. Cleopatra VII  bmcPhoen19.JPG Cleopatra 7 R  NikeTripoli.JPG
     
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  13. GinoLR

    GinoLR Well-Known Member

    These 40 or 80 drachmas AE coins of Cleopatra almost always come in very worn and corroded condition.

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    This one (not my coin) was found in Saudi Arabia
     
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  14. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Here's a question, what is the highest grade Cleo coin in existence?
     
  15. Curtis

    Curtis Well-Known Member

    British Museum has quite a few very nice ones. Here's one of their Cleopatra portrait Tetradrachms:
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    (their catalog record)

    Here are some better ones from the private market:

    A nice Cleopatra portrait Tetradrachm: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3711885

    This Antony / Cleopatra Tetradrachm is pretty good: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5573982

    Here's a pretty nice Cleopatra/Antony Denarius: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3712121

    Nice Cleopatra bronze: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6333934
     
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