Google hits don't really prove anything. For axample: The word unique, which I hope you agree has no degrees (something is either unique, or it is not) gets even more hits than degrees of objectivity. Degrees of uniqueness: 37,100,000 It is worth mentioning that the very first hit on that phrase says this about the word unique (it's a guide to English grammar): More unique: 386,000,000 Less unique: 210,000,000 The fact you can find millions of sites use a word a certain way does not prove that is the correct usage. Google is a poor way to prove the correct usage of words, as the above evidence clearly shows.
Well here I give you your big opportunity to show us some support for your position and all you can do with that is show us how far you can drift off-point. Let me ask you this. How many 1881-S Morgan dollars would you estimate you've seen in your lifetime? Maybe, at best, a handful? For every one you've seen, PCGS has seen buckets-full. Ergo, PCGS has more of a factual basis than you to grade an 1881-S Morgan dollar; ergo, per definition, while both opinions as to grade can be said to be fact-based, i.e., "objective," PCGS's opinion can be said to be more fact-based, i.e., more objective, than your opinion. Or, strictly-speaking, PCGS's opinion has the "capacity" to be more objective. That doesn't always guarantee, of course, they are. Short of having said that, I don't know what else I can tell you, but, like I said, I agree to disagree.
Most clearly, that's a problem. If I can add anything, Lehigh, it's this. Think of natural toning as blast white, and artificial toning as dipping. There was a time when hearing a blast white coin had been dipped would all but shock the conscience of most collectors. Now, however, most of us are accustomed to it. Will there similarly come a time when we're accustomed to a TPG "helping out" an unattractively-toned coin with some cosmetic, artificial toning? Most collectors still can't discern when a coin has been "professionally-dipped." I wonder if we'll be able to discern when a coin has been "professionally-artificially-toned." Not all the way. Just in spots. Just to touch-up that unattractive spill-smear, there, in the corner, that's holding that grade down. It could use a little red, there. The technology exists. And toning is now a grading factor. In short, again, think of blast whites, and dipping. All I'm suggesting is, that might be right around the corner, i.e., the "trend," with respect to these "toners." We'll find out, in time, of course. Of course, JMO, now...
Good anology Eddie , thinking outside the box and bringing new perspectives , though as I don't like AT , who knows how the hobby will shape my thinking in a couple of years , but here's hoping that AT never catches on . rzage
Hey thanks Rusty. The hobby will shape our thinking. But the market will shape the hobby. That's the scary part.
Ruben, if you're going to keep them, what's the point, why take a chance? You know the grade they give them is only going to take into account the current market. How can it take into account the market in 5-10-20 years from now? That's not here yet. You're going to need a fresh market grade, then, anyway, if you plan on selling them. That's how I look at it. What's the point of getting a coin market graded if you're not in the market? Wait until you're in the market, then do it. Why not get your house appraised, too, while you're at it, what the hell? Do you see what I mean?
Is there a particular reason you want to have them slabbed , like I have a Trade dollar thought it was counterfeit , sent it to a fellow CTer , he's 99.999 % sure it's a real I/II micro S MM pretty rare , now that one I'd like to send in for attribution . If you're worried about protection I swear by Intercept Shields 2X2s , better then slabs in my book . rzage:thumb:
Maybe so, but I have a few coins I'd like to put in slabs with grades from a reputable grading company. I'm not found of them being raw, and I'd like my idea of the grade either confirmed or corrected. Ruben
I can see that , sort of like your own grading set , I bought PCGS slabbed 63 , 64 , 65 Morgans a while back to help my grading . rzage
