GTG 1938 5C Buffalo

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  1. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Gentlemen she's a triple D that speaks for its self ! :)
     
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  3. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Yes, but that does not raise the grade of the piece.

    MS-66 at least, could be an MS-67. Once you get to these high grades, grading wiht the photos is impossible.
     
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  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Duh....no kidding.....:rolleyes:
     
  5. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Don't say that to a certain professional grader about that. He and I have had "agree to disagree" discussions about that.
     
  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Look it was a "joke" Duh....again
    I have purchased,sold, collected every 5 U.S.cent coin thousands of times over. At one time I had so many nickels....I paid off a 1977 camero ! ....with bags I had searched! So John yeah I know about nickels ,half dimes.....and a lot of world 5 cent pieces....so yeah
     
  7. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Yes, but it has been common practice for many years, before I became a collector in the early 1960s to soften the grading standards for better dates and varieties. It stinks because you are already paying a premium for the date. Then they think you should pay another premium for the over grading.
     
  8. Black Friar

    Black Friar Well-Known Member

    My guess is: a very beautiful coin in anyone's grading system, Choice BU.
     
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  9. Coinman since 1957

    Coinman since 1957 New Member

    It's a GEM! numbers are all opinions and grading services are about making money for nothing!
     
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  10. Dima

    Dima Member

    The grade is PCGS MS66.

    However...
    I had my suspicions that this might be the case!! But, I figured, "since the previous owner didn't attribute this; it must not be the case;" and/or "I must be seeing things." Ultimately, "PCGS would've caught this and added to the label," so I convinced myself I must be wrong. I'm happy that others see the RPM evidence I thought I saw.

    I'd purchased this coin PCGS slabbed years ago via eBay. Recently, I became convinced it was undergraded and decided that even if I was wrong, such a beautifully toned coin deserved a TrueView and a newer, scratch free holder. In hand, I think this coin looks MS66+ or even MS67 on a good day. Earlier in the month, I pulled the trigger and sent this (along with a few others) for regrade and GoldShield holders. As you can see, the images are ready; the grades are not yet. Hopefully, I can come back and update this thread with a higher grade soon :)

    Appreciate all the compliments, kind words, and guesses folks.
     
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  11. Dima

    Dima Member

    Dang... now I wish I'd asked for the RPM variety attribution on my regrade submission. Worst case, if I was wrong, I would've gambled away $9...:banghead:
     
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  12. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    My guess was 66 before the reveal.
    PCGS (and NGC) won't put the RPM unless one pays the extra fee for it.
     
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  13. Dima

    Dima Member

    Correct; PCGS charged $18 for variety attribution, but if they inspect it and deem it doesn't fit the variety, they only charge you $9.

    Once this coin comes back, I do not have plans to resubmit it for RPM attribution, but I'll certainly note it in my collection. I think once they're done with TrueView, I'll have an even higher resolution photo I'll be able to share of the reverse so we can inspect it.
     
  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    @Dima I told you what it is....varietyvista.com
     
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  15. Dima

    Dima Member

    Yup, thanks very much! After I read your initial post, I googled it and actually ended up on the same site as you suggested.
     
  16. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Nice coin 1938 D buffalos are a fun date and mm to collect. So many different rpm and omms.
     
  17. Lembeck13

    Lembeck13 Active Member

    Despite the irrelevant triple RPM/reverse-ding myopic numismatic palaver... should some bleary-eyed, anonymous PCGS grader grant this coin something less than an MS-67... well, thank you for sparing me the cost of additional over-priced, market-tainted, and inexplicably non-attributable misjudgements. An ANA expert of considerable renown once advised me: "First, judge a coin for what it is; not what it isn't." I shall be awaiting PCGS's call...
     
  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Late to the party, but a solid 66. I would have thought 66+ as it is high in grade. Knocking on the door of 67, but not quite there.
     
  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Bah humbug!
     
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  20. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Reverse back leg hurts. I'm hoping 65+
     
  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    How the hell can you see that. You got Ted Williams helping you out? He has 15/15 vision. I gotta look that up
     
    Last edited: May 20, 2020
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