Weird error dime

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by MrStuff, Nov 3, 2008.

  1. MrStuff

    MrStuff Junior Member

    I found a 2003 D dime a couple weeks ago that had the Lincoln memorial stamped across the face...At first I thought someone had pressed the image into it, but upon closer examination I noticed the image was raised, and backwards...There is also a raised area circling Roosevelts head and continues around the word Liberty...The back of the coin seems to be normal except a tiny V shaped alteration at the lower left of the torch flame...I had the coin looked at by 4 diffrent coin dealers and they were all fairly sure it was not faked...None of them could come up with a name for this error, any ideas? Any ideas how this could happen? Value?


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  3. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    the dime was glued or siliconed to the cent. the raised part you are looking at is that glue residue and will peel off. Why did they do this? who knows!

    Richard
     
  4. MrStuff

    MrStuff Junior Member


    No glue residue...Sorry
     
  5. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    Could it have been like a REALLY BIG dropped letter of like the whole memorial?\
    That is very interesting.
     
  6. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Post Mint manipulation! A crude mold or Die was made from the Reverse of a Lincoln Memorial Cent (thus the reversed image and lettering) and then the mold or Die was pressed into the Dime using the squeeze method.


    Frank
     
  7. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    I would still keep it just because it is very uncommon.
    WOW THAT WAS MY 500th POST!!!
     
  8. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It's an obvious glue job. You can see the transparent dried glue standing above the surface of the coin.
     
  9. MrStuff

    MrStuff Junior Member


    No glue..Sorry
     
  10. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I seen a lot of coin lately that look the same with a clear gunk on them. I guess there coming from car dashboards and any wear a coin can lay. then be rolled up to pay for gas & money to make it buy!
     
  11. MrStuff

    MrStuff Junior Member

    4 coin dealers looked at it under a loop and the more they looked at it the more they were convinced it was not faked...There is no glue, that is metal you are looking at...My question wasn't weither it was real or not, I just want to know what you would call this error, how it could happen, and if there is a value on a coin like this...Any info would be gr8...Thanks
     
  12. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    No, it is not a error! The coin was Post Mint (Man-Made) manipulation. A struck Dime Planchet can fall into the Striking Chamber and be struck with Cent Dies but the Memorial Cent (Reverse) details would in correct orientation. Since your coin has the Memorial Building and lettering reversed over the Dime details, then it was man-made after leaving the Mint. I hope this clears up and answers your question!


    Frank
     
  13. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    My dealing with "coin dealers" is that unless they specuialize in errors and oddities they don't have a clue about them. If that raised area was metal then the face of the dime would be distorted in order to be on the raised metal like that, it isn't. The reason for that is that the raised area is clear and you are seeing throught it. the lincoln memorial is on the surface of the clear material and is deffinately a post mint situation.
    You might not realise that the poster above, mikediamond, is the presedent of CONECA, The Combined Organization of Error Collectors of America. I would value the opinion of this expert over the local coin dealer.

    Richard
     
  14. dhegler

    dhegler Junior Member

    Sorry it doesn't look like it is real, but these guys know their stuff... Which is why I suggested you ask them here... The first pics you posted at the BTH site were not as good as these... From the side, it does look like glue from the pics. Why don't you weight it? If it is legit and a dime planchet fell in with pennies and there si no glue, it should weigh exactly the same as a normal dime. If someone did something to add to the metal or anything else was manipulated, the weight will be off... But they are also right in the fact that if it dropped into a penny die, it wouldn't be reversed.

    If the weight is off, go back tot hose dealers and see hwo much they'd give you for it! :)
     
  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    and not even a good one.
     
  16. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    He means "glue job" in a broad sense. Include silicone or something like that, like Ziggy said. I've seen this on cents, many times. It can be scraped off. If you don't want to try that because you're still unsure, try soaking it in distilled water for about a month, and see if it loosens. At least, that's what it looks like to me...
     
  17. MrStuff

    MrStuff Junior Member

    I have no reason to lie about this coin and I really don't want to argue weither the coin is real or not...I agree that it does look a lot like a glue job from the pictures and I know I am new here and nobody has any reason to belive what I'm posting...I just wanted to know what you would call this error (if it was real), how it could happen, and if it could have any value...
     
  18. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    opinion is post mint damage but interesting

    Here are some thoughts on the dime. My opinion is that it is post mint damage.

    The E PLURIBUS UNUM of the cent design is mirror imaged. This indicates that the raised cent image on the dime was made by a struck cent (not a die). The question appears to be what is the material The material is raised on the surface of the dime and has taken the impression of the cent. Glue would be the obvious material but that is being disputed by the folks that are seeing the coin. I guess everyone is saying that it looks like nickel silver-colored metal. It could be paint, solder, or almost anything. I probably would not hurt the coin to soak it in acetone & see if the mysterious raised material falls away.

    If it is really a silver-colored metal then it may have been applied with heat and a re-application of heat might remove it. I would not recommend ruining the piece with heat. I would recommend just keeping it.

    I doubt that the material was electroformed on to the surface of the dime.

    Very best regards,
    collect89
     
  19. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    The reason we can't tell you what kind of error it would be is because it isn't possible to have this particular scenario from the mint ahd therefor there is no name for it. it is NOT an error. Like I said before, if the added material was not transparent like a clear glue, silicone, or similar then you wouldn't be able to see the obverse of the dime through it.

    You have recieved the opinions of some very experienced people here and yet you continue to argue that what we say isn't possible. Why don't you submit if for authentication so you can spend money to hear the same results that you have been given here for free.

    Not one person has insinuated that you are lying but for you to expect us to just agree with you that, all evidence to the contrary, this is a real error, is very frustrating. There is no name for this but if you really want me to I can make up one, it won't change the facts.

    Richard
     
  20. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Mr,Stuff,

    I am sorry to be so blunt but again I state that it is "Not an Error", it is "Post Mint Man-Made" manipulation and has no value other than the face value of a Dime!


    Frank
     
  21. FreakyGarrettC

    FreakyGarrettC Wise young snail

    Once again could it have been like a dropped letter of the entire memorial.
     
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