I have this large Chinese Charm Coin size is 78mm and weight 190 grams would like some help on value or any information on it. Haven’t seen any this size or weight been looking for quite a while .I have been told it’s fake but seems really good casting it reads Long Life Without Limit and Empire in Guest Peace any thought on it welcome and thank you.
I believe this is simply a decorative piece and could be a paperweight. It probably is not a coin. There is a great website (link below) which would help you to identify ancient Chinese coins by a series of filters. http://www.calgarycoin.com/reference/china/chinaid.htm
Yes, I agree that it's most likely a decorative piece, most likely a brass paperweight. However, a question that comes to my mind that seems readily apparent, is that though there are 4 characters on each side, the 4 on one side seem more complicated (or less simple) than the 4 on the other side. Whether that means anything I have no idea since I don't read the language.
Thank you for your opinion it’s much appreciated but I can see from both answers that your not familiar with this coin .Been on the site for identifying coins and charms and identified it , it’s a genuine piece will keep looking for more info.
Just some fortuitous expressions. Obverse: 萬壽無疆 wànshòuwújiāng "May you enjoy boundless longevity" Reverse: 天下太平 tiānxiàtàipíng "May all under heaven know peace" They are traditional characters. Orientation is top-bottom-right-left for both sides.
What site would that be, Bru? I can't speak for anyone but myself but you are absolutely right when you say that I am not familiar with this "coin". And you are absolutely right when you say "it's a genuine piece..." but a genuine piece of what? This appears to me to be a "larger-than-life-size" representation of a real, genuine coin. I would think the reason it is so large and heavy would be to avoid any misconceptions of it being a counterfeit. As such, it is a gift shop type of thing that could be found in any "Oriental", "Eastern", or "Chinese" style of gift shop. It is meant to be a "Good Luck Charm" and would be found, in use, most likely as a paperweight. Now, with that opinion given, I'm very open to being corrected. I always love to get new information and learn new things. Now please correct me with that new information so that I will have the correct information for the future. Thank you. Something to consider is that many people come to this site with a coin or something else, and they ask us for our opinions of what they provide photos of. We do our best to provide opinions, and ONLY opinions, of what we're shown. Sometimes the opinion is good, sometimes it's not so good. However, in EVERY CASE it is an honest opinion. Could we be wrong? Of course. Many times the new member comes in with a preconceived notion of what he has. When he hears the opinions, sometimes he gets dejected, sometimes he gets elated, and rarely, he gets angry. We have no reason to lie to you or anyone. You asked for opinions, you got opinions. If you think we're wrong, please prove it and we will be happy to accept it. Thanks and please keep posting anything Numismatically related.
Thanks for that information. So the question remains : is this a real coin, or a large representation of a real coin meant to be a good luck piece? Please note the large size of 78 mm and 190 grams, as given by the OP. Again, thanks for your input, Eidolon.
My impression is that it is purely a charm/token. I don't believe that there was ever an official Chinese coin with that particular combination of characters. There is an immense variety of Chinese charms of various sizes and designs, though I can't claim exhaustive knowledge. Many of them do not match the pattern of any circulating coin.
Not me. It could be old but not a coin, though I doubt it. Largest I know of is the 100 cash bronzes, which could be about 50-55 mm. I don't think they were very standardized from province to province. Anything old-looking from China I assume to be a replica, unless I have reason to believe otherwise. Original piece looks not to be especially old, nor to match any coin design I've heard of. But I'm no expert. I can read old inscriptions a bit because I studied classical Japanese a long time ago, and they are close enough I can use a character dictionary for the parts I don't know.
Hi thanks for all the opinions I always listen to more experienced voices than my own and don’t take offence , I think this is a bronze charm not a coin per se .In a collection of antique Chinese pieces I have, this was among them along with a marriage charm which I am also researching.This site was the only one I found that might help me to identify the piece.Any replies are greatly appreciated and thanks to everyone who replied for your time.
Here’s the Marriage Charm it’s slightly smaller 60mm and half as thin , I also have burial Clay coins , shell coin and other ancient bronze pieces in the collection.So I could be forgiven for thinking The Charm Coin might be an old piece.
Because of your graciousness, you are absolutely forgiven. Disagreement in a civilized way is not a sin around here. Disagreement in an argumentative way is not any fun for anyone. That Marriage Charm is an interesting item in itself. It looks sort of handmade, like a Love Token on a Silver Dime. I guess it is a Love Token in it's own way, isn't it? What's on the other side? Can you post photos of some of the other items in your collection? Depending on what you have, you might want to start a new thread for each different item. Put a short description in the heading so it will catch the attention of those interested in those items. Thanks for posting and Welcome to Coin Talk !!
Thank you here’s the other side of the charm , I noticed something just above between the deer looks like a capital A and wondered was it a sig of some sort or just part of the engraving if you can make it out.Will.
I'm still trying to figure out what those two creatures are. They could be deer (if those are antlers). It's a nice piece.
