What do you think of this 89CC? Is it UNC as advertised?

Now that this auction is over, what do yall think of this 89cc? Is it unc as advertised? did the buyer come away with a fat RIP?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1889-CC-authentic-Carson-City-uncirculated-morgan-silver-dollar/362990556687?hash=item5483ec560f:g:NToAAOSwWVNets0G

 

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Now that this auction is over, what do yall think of this 89cc? Is it unc as advertised? did the buyer come away with a fat RIP?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1889-CC-authentic-Carson-City-uncirculated-morgan-silver-dollar/362990556687?hash=item5483ec560f:g:NToAAOSwWVNets0G

 

Pretty risky with terrible photos. A seller with 52 sales? At least they accept returns.

 

Wow, that is a huge amount of money for a coin like that with such bad pictures!

I think whoever receives that is going to find an AU-58 coin that has been cleaned. Now, don't get me wrong, that's still an extremely valuable coin.... but I wouldn't risk it on those pictures!

And that's also assuming it's genuine, which I'm not willing to do based solely on those pictures. Wow.

 

I don’t think it is genuine. As you said, sure can’t tell from those awful photos. If it is, it is a harshly cleaned or whizzed AU details coin. I would vote for Shanghai genuine.

 

I wouldn't touch it with a 50' pole, but that's me.

 

1889 CC 'Uncirculated' and not in a top two slab? Someone is taking a big chance.
Personally I wouldn't bid on it.

 

What does "Based in the United States" say to you?

 

The use of the word “authentic” in the listing gives me pause.

 

Does anyone think an "East Asian influence?"

 

I hope you were not the winning bidder if it is what many of us think.
Many times, if it looks too good to be true....

 

MS in that coin starts at about $20,000

 

Well I think the money may be it trying to pull off a repunched date - Which there is not one known.
A few things just look off -
Second star to the left of the date -
The Date looks like an attempt at a repunched look
"D" in united is odd - One of the cotton bolls look real off
With reverse cracks its trying to pull off a V4 - CC does not quite look in the right position and the wing gap has a funny gouge
AND of course polished and cleaned
Lot of money to not be in a holder …

 

I don't know how many obverse and reverse dies were used for the 1889-CC Morgan.
I did an overlay for the lower portion of the reverse, mainly concentrating on the mint mark. The letters appear to line up, but the mint mark is in a slightly different position. This may be normal depending on how many dies were used.
Anyway for what it's worth.

I couldn't get them perfectly lined up since the OP's coin had a slight tilt.

OP photo


My ex-1889-CC


Overlay - the OP's CC is north of the CC on my coin

 

Looks like it's probably VAM 3. AU cleaned. Not a good buy.

 

The date does not appear to be in the far position for a 3 , at least by his wonderful pictures

 

Perhaps VAM 4 then.

 

The over lay is cool. I looks like you are using the "DO" to line up on. Can you do that with this plate from vamworld VAM-4 to the Op's coin?

http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/1889-CC_VAM-4

 

Looks like an overdipped AU to me.

Here are the three mintmark positions for 1889 CC: