CSA Categorization Question

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by benhur767, May 13, 2020.

  1. benhur767

    benhur767 Sapere aude

    When organizing a currency catalog, is it standard to have Confederate States as a sub-level category of United States, or should they be organized as their own separate but equal category? I welcome any opinions or debate on the matter. But maybe there's a currency expert here who has authoritative knowledge about how it's typically done.

    As a thank you for your assistance, here's a note from my collection:

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    CSA, 1864, T-70. Serial no. 7855 handwritten at upper right. CR-567, PF-1. Obv: large “2” at center, Judah P. Benjamin at right. Rev: blank. Engraved by Keatinge & Ball in Columbia, SC. Dated February 17th 1864. Plate letter F. Red underprint. PMG 63 EPQ Choice Uncirculated; Fricke Choice, Fricke Red.

    No periods by either plate letter (Rarity 3).
     
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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I have always had them in US holdings. They were never recognized by other world governments, so I count them as insurrectionists, (no offence meant to any southern friends here). I do the same for Mexican Revolutionary money, etc.
     
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  4. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

    I keep mine separate under the section 'Civil War Currency'. But here's the way you should do it:
    What ever way that pleases you. Nice note.
     
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  5. benhur767

    benhur767 Sapere aude

    Thanks for your feedback! I'm asking because I'm providing feedback for an online collection management website called Colleconline. Strange name, I know, but it's based in France. I don't want to be advertising for them, but I'm trying it out and so far I like it.

    Anyway, I'm just trying to get a consensus of what would make most sense to someone searching by category, not necessarily aligning with my personal preference. Sorry, I should have clarified this in my initial post.

    Civil War Currency is a good idea. Maybe the hierarchy could be:

    United States > US Civil War > Confederate
     
  6. benhur767

    benhur767 Sapere aude

    Good points. Thanks, it probably makes sense to keep it under United States on the same level as other revolutionary money.
     
  7. MEC2

    MEC2 Enormous Member

    First - love that Benjamin note - fantastic example, great color, full framing... I have an orange variety very similar.

    Personally I would put them outside the US collection - just for concision sake. There are already so many US subtypes, my inclination would be to have them as a separate category. But it's more of a preference thing - I mean Colonial notes are usually considered under the US, even though I don't know of any issued after the actual ratification of the US Constitution which established the United States formally as a nation. Most were issued before the Declaration of Independence... so why aren't they under Great Britain?
     
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  8. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    CSA notes are typically never found in US Paper Money guides. They are considered separate entities.
     
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  9. benhur767

    benhur767 Sapere aude

    Thanks for the your advice. The Colonial notes are a fascinating example of a standard that isn't technically accurate.
     
  10. benhur767

    benhur767 Sapere aude

    Okay, this is good to know. I'm not a hardcore paper money collector. My CSA note collection is sort of secondary to my main interest, which is ancient Roman coins.
     
  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    If it were me I would place them under Civil War Currency or CSA and keep them separate.
     
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  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    @benhur767 I picked this up a short time ago. Not sure if you've seen anything like this. It's my first one.

    Notice it has FACSIMILE at the bottom center on the obverse. The reverse is an advertisement for Bassett's Horehound Troches. 3 folds and some staining but I like it. It goes with my CSA notes.
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  13. benhur767

    benhur767 Sapere aude

    Wow, thanks for showing this! No, I've never seen this before. Very interesting! :woot:
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Just start looking for them and I'm sure you'll find one at a decent price. I got this one for under $10.00 so the condition didn't really bother me.
     
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  15. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    Since the site the OP is working with is in France they would probably best understand the CSA notes as a US subtype, just like they are listed on EBay. As long as they aren’t listed under the “War of Northern Aggression” as that would be lost on an overseas audience:)
     
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  16. benhur767

    benhur767 Sapere aude

    Based on the advice given here and the input I gave them they did decide to create a category named "Confederate currency (1861–1864)" which is a subtype of "United States of America."
     
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