Clodius Albinus

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  1. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    outstanding.
     
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  3. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    @PeteB Well, I want to throw my coin in the garbage now. Wow.
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Me too!! Oh, I don't have one.
     
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  5. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Not at all!!!! Yours has a very nice portrait! Yes, a weak strike, but little actual wear.
     
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  6. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    True. I got this one from @Terence Cheesman. This one is from the mint of Lugdunum.

    ClodiusAlbinusFIDESLEG800.jpg 19-18 mm. 2.94 grams.
    IMP CAES D CLO SEP ALB AVG
    laureate head right
    FIDES LEGION COS II
    clasped hands holding legionary eagle on thunderbolt

    RIC IV.I 20, plate 2.19 (same obverse die/different reverse die)
    Sear 6166. It has a photo with the same dies.
     
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  7. nicholasz219

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  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have owned a few of the AVG coins over the years but alas no longer have any as I parted with them a few years back.

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    they did include a scarcer draped bust variety of the Genius type that @dougsmit shared above
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  9. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    Excellent coins all!

    I also have one as Caesar - not perfect but I'm pleased with it (and it wasn't too expensive either)

    Clodius albinus caesar providentia.jpg

    And one as Augustus - this was an early add that I got a stellar deal on ebay, I think under $50
    Clodius albinus augustus genio lugdunum.jpg

    Interesting to note is that Albinus was one of only two emperors to hold the title of Caesar and then rise up as a usurper against his emperor - the other being Julian II.
     
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  10. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Beautiful and interesting coins in thread.
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  11. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    That's pretty much exactly how I feel about mine!
     
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  12. dougsmit

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    I fear we make a major error with the statement that Septimius has many beautiful coins. Yes, he does but 194-195 was not a high point for the Rome mint workmanship. After a few good ones in 193 and before Albinus was out of the picture, Rome tended to churn out lesser quality strikes on small flans. You have to look a bit to find nice coins from Rome. Remember that Septimius was out East dealing with Pescennius Niger for much of this time. When the boss was away, the mint slacked off. The best coins of that period were from what we are now calling 'Syrian' mints and they struck none for Albinus.

    The 'best' Septimius coins judged by the flan size and strike are later, after the end of the civil and Parthian wars. I do not collect these nearly to the degree that I do the early and the Eastern coins. To get a fair comparison with Albinus coins look at Rome mint coins for Septimius dated IMP II to IMP V. There are nice, full legend coins of this group but, like Albinus, you must look a bit harder to find them.
    Exceptional IMP II:
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    Normal IMP III-V:
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  13. octavius

    octavius Well-Known Member

    Thank you Doug for that explanation. Makes a lot more sense to me now. I appreciate it.
     
  14. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    purdy nice one one...i have recently be aware that i don't have him in my fray yet either...(but we can sub one of Sept Severus for look alike portraits:p)
     
  15. Alwin

    Alwin Well-Known Member

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    (This photo is over 25 years old, I will try to do better, one day...)

    CLODIUS ALBINUS, as Caesar
    Denarius
    Rome, 193-195
    3.49 g - 19 mm
    D CL SEPT ALBIN CAES, bare head right
    ROMAE AETERNAE, Roma seated left on shield, holding palladium in her right hand and a long scepter in her left.
     
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  16. nicholasz219

    nicholasz219 Well-Known Member

    @dougsmit Explained much more clearly what I was trying to get at. I see an improvement after Albinus is out of the picture and Septimius sets about ruling and administering the Empire.
     
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  17. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Some very decent examples all along this thread, even though we understand how difficult it is to find a Clodius Albinus in pristine condition

    My only example

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    Clodius Albinus, Denarius - Rome mint, AD 194
    CLOD SEPT ALBIN CAES, bare head of Clodius Albinus right
    MINER PACIF COS II, Minerva standing left, holding spear and olive branch, leaning on shield
    3,36 gr
    Ref : Cohen #48, RCV #6144

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  18. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    I've enjoyed the coins in this thread. Here are a couple from my collection, full beard and beard challenged.

    ClodAlbSeated.jpg
    When allied with Septimius Severus, Clodius Albinus’ portraits show him with hair combed forward to cover a receding hairline matched with a short scruffy beard.

    When Septimius Severus named his son Caracalla Caesar, Albinus understood this as the end of their alliance and the beginning of a fight for his life.

    Ablinus took the title of Augustus (Imperator Caesar Decimus Clodius Septimius Albinus Augustus), and his portrait quickly converts to a full head of hair and voluminous beard worthy of an Emperor.

    ClodiusAlbinus.jpg


    According to Curtis Clay, Albinus broke with Severus c. Nov. 195, but was defeated and killed by Severus near Lugdunum, not on 19 Feb. 197 as traditionally stated, but a year earlier on 19 Feb. 196, after a revolt lasting only about three months!

    This explains the scarcity of Albinus' coinage as Emperor compared to Albinus as Caesar under Severus.

    And here's the whole friendly bunch:
    Five Beards.jpg
     
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