Hi CT friends, Not very often do I post here on the WC forum, and even less for a question. I need an advice from the british coins enthusiasts here !! Thanks to the lockdown, I've taken some time to take some care of my british coins collection : taking pictures, cataloguing, posting them on Colleconline (for those interested you can see them here : https://www.colleconline.com/fr/collection-items/2455/monnaie-monde-royaume-uni ) Anyway, I took yesterday some pictures of a somewhat decent Victoria shilling dated 1861, and went to look into my Spink to have its reference. They say there that exists a scarce variant with D overstruck on B in the F: D: at the end of the obverse legend. Out of curiosity, I took the magnifier and here is what I see I have made my homework on the internet but couldn't find any convincing picture of an example there. The people I showed the above don't look absolutely convinced either. Hence I played a bit with colors to explain what I see. What do you people think about it ? Thanks in advance for your input Stay safe Q
It looks to me like a D/c from the denticles down to and through the D ... forming the horizontal across the inside of the D. Now, underneath the D, that looks like a repunch or recut. With Canada Victoria large cents, many times repunching a design element stops D/C's in their tracks .. from denticles or beads back through letters or digits.
Thanks folks for your answers I understand the idea of a recut D, but, sorry (english isn't my mother language), I don't get the point about the D/c thing Q
Please take a photo shooting it at 90 degrees above with it being lite from the top also. The D/C would be like making a mistake while lettering the die So they punched in an C then to cover the mistake they punched a D over the c to cover. Below are 3 of my coins which shows one number or letter over another to cover a mistake or they just didn't care about doing sloppy work. The D with the line inside it....that's actually a buffalo nickel a 1938 D /S There is an 1943 nickel the date shows the last digit is a 3/2 . And the the mint mark on a Morgan silver dollar is an O over an S you can see the line going across the inside of the loop. I hope this translated makes sense, to you my 5 years of French and 2 years of Spanish would probably cause me to have bigger issues than if I keep my secret .....and say nothing! Enjoy
Hi Paddy and Burl, Thanks for your answers and apologies for a late reply : I was awaiting an opinion from another source. I've submitted the coin (coin's pictures, not the actual coin) to the "All coin values" ressource website's administrator, and here is their answer : "Hi Jean, Thanks for your message, and apologies for the delayed response. Your coin certainly fits the bill – I have only been able to source images of one other example – unfortunately the other image is not as good as yours, so is difficult to compare. I’ve linked the page on London Coin Auctions showing the other image, for your reference (if you are interested): http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?page=Pastresults&searchterm=Shilling+1861&category=9&searchtype=1 Thank you for the images, and for your interest – I think we would consider this as suitable for our purposes – much appreciated. Regards, Tim - ACV" They eventually used my pictures to illustrate the variety. https://www.allcoinvalues.com/unite...value2c-victoria2c-young-head2c-d-over-b.html @Paddy54 i clearly see what you mean with the examples you illustrate, especially the 3/2 and the O/S. Not as sure about the D/S at the top. Maybe what I see is more obvious coin in hand and playing with the light than on pictures.... or my brain doesn't want to see what my eyes actually see Thank you again Q
@Cucumbor I'm so glad that you pursued this and the out come is fantistic! So nice to have a dis o try coin or even better the best specimen of said discovery. I know Bill will be very excited, I've known of Bill for years both here and other web sites. His knowlege is always appreciated where and when ever posted. So yes your post caught the eyes of those who love to hunt these types of treasures we sometimes find on coins. Your find as well your quest to solve the mystery. Congrats on this discovery and keep on hunting they are out there..... @Nathan401
