Comely and Common

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  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I've always wanted a decent example of this fairly common type struck at Lugdunum for Domitian Caesar. Having a bit patience for such a prevalent coin can pay off - an inexpensive example with good eye appeal is not uncommon.


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    Domitian as Caesar
    Æ As, 10.03g
    Lyon mint, 77-78 AD (Vespasian)
    Obv: CAESAR AVG F DOMITIANVS COS V; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r.; globe at point of bust
    Rev: S C in field; Spes stg. l., with flower
    RIC 1290 (C3). BMC 873. BNC 885.
    Acquired from Redoubt Numismatics, eBay, April 2020.

    The Flavian provincial branch mint at Lugdunum (modern Lyon) resumed production in 77-78 after a lengthy hiatus, presumably to address a bronze coinage shortage in the Western provinces. Coins were issued for Vespasian and both of his sons, with reverse types often shared between them. By far the most common type struck for Domitian Caesar was Spes, the goddess of hope. She is seen in her standard pose with lifted skirt and holding a flower, probably based on a familiar cult image. The handsome portrait in good Lugdunese style is an added bonus.

    Post your cheap common cuties!
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Just looking at the portrait, I would never have guessed that was Domitian. Nice catch @David Atherton
     
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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Looks like a good addition...
     
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  5. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    That’s a really nice Domitian potrait, David.
    I like the reverse too, but it looks like it could benefit from a little cleaning?

    Domitian has been a kind of «fly-over» emperor for me all the years I’ve been into imperial coins.
    I am gradually starting to appreciate his coinage now (thanks to the postings from you and Orfew, among others). I tend to prefer the early portraits or the portraits on provincial coins. I bought this «common and comely» denarius earlier this year:

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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Mine, under Titus, is not all that 'comely' whether or not it is common.
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    I have always been fond of my Titus sestertius ex. Ed Waddell 1988. Even then I could not afford Ed's coins unless they were Bronze Disease survivors (clean for 32 years).
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  7. Gary R. Wilson

    Gary R. Wilson ODERINT, DUM METUANT — CALIGULA

    I agree Bing. It looks more like Nero to me. Interesting.
     
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  8. Limes

    Limes Well-Known Member

    Had to look up what comely means. Thank you for enriching my English. And the coin does indeed look comely.
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I suppose all languages play this game but English doe seem to have more words than necessary. However many/most have some particular shade of meaning different from the rest. My favorite for this coin would be 'fetching' since 'comely' is more often said of women and a comely Domitian is stretching the point a mite. Fetching even suggests we might want to 'fetch' one of these for ourselves.
    From a dictionary online:

    come·ly
    /ˈkəmlē/
    Learn to pronounce

    adjective
    ARCHAIC•HUMOROUS
    adjective: comely; comparative adjective: comelier; superlative adjective: comeliest
    1. (typically of a woman) pleasant to look at; attractive.
      "the comely Italian actress Valeria Golino"

      Similar:
      attractive

      good-looking

      nice-looking

      beautiful

      pretty

      handsome

      lovely

      stunning

      striking

      arresting

      gorgeous

      prepossessing

      winning

      fetching

      captivating

      bewitching

      beguiling

      engaging

      charming

      charismatic

      enchanting

      appealing

      delightful

      irresistible

      sexy

      sexually attractive
      sexual

      seductive

      alluring

      tantalizing

      ravishing

      desirable

      sultry

      sensuous

      sensual

      erotic

      arousing

      luscious

      lush

      nubile

      bonny

      fanciable
      beddable

      tasty

      hot

      knockout

      drop-dead gorgeous
      out of this world

      easy on the eye

      come-hither

      come-to-bed

      smashing

      cute

      foxy

      bootylicious

      spunky

      beauteous

      taking

      well favored

      fair

      sightly

      pulchritudinous


      Opposite:
      ugly
     
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  10. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    The reverse of Spes is female and can, therefore, be correctly described as comely. I believe that David was merely exercising alliterative flair and not trying to be literal.
     
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  11. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Yea, I was just trying to come up with a word beginning with 'c' that agreed with 'common'. Admittedly, 'comely' does stretch the point a bit. The Spes reverse was my loophole with the feminine word choice.

    Alternative title: A Fetching Frugal Find.
     
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  12. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    That's patina and any 'improvements' would ruin it I think.
     
  13. Gary R. Wilson

    Gary R. Wilson ODERINT, DUM METUANT — CALIGULA

    Here's another Domitian that I got from a London Ancient Coin "buy or make an offer" leftovers from a recent auction. I offered a price that I was surprised, was accepted.

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    Domitian (Augustus)
    Coin: Bronze As
    IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XV CENS PER P P - Laureate head right
    FORTVNAE AVGVSTI S-C - Fortuna standing left, holding rudder and cornucopiae.
    Exergue:


    Mint: Rome (90-91 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 10.89g / 27mm / 5h
    References:
    RIC II 707
    Provenances:
    London Ancient Coins (LAC)
    Acquisition/Sale: London Ancient Coins (LAC) Internet $0.00 10/19
    Notes: Nov 5, 19 - The Gary R. Wilson Collection
     
  14. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Yeah, thats a great portrait
     
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