Philadelphia mint, minted Silver Eagles in support of West Points closure.

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  1. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Does anyone know where we kind find a complete list of all ASE's?
    Dates
    Mints
    Mint Marks
    Finish - Proof, Reverse Proof, Enhanced, Uncirculated, Burnished, Bullion, Etc.
    One reason I quit was it became difficult to keep up with all the variations.
     
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  3. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    As far as the Philly ASE strikes go, a well known dealer is now selling them in MS70 from $219 to $249, depending on the label.

    EMERGENCY STRIKES!!!!!!!

    LOL
     
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  4. scsterry

    scsterry New Member

    Yes, they are labeled with the "P" mint mark in parenthases, denoting it as being struck from somewhere OTHER than the mint mark, or lack of, location.
    I love my ASE's. I am trying to collect the coins like this one, that were minted somewhere other than they were supposed to have been.
    I do agree with the majority of you that "First Day of Issues" and other designations like that, are useless. Only company's or very wealthy people could possibly afford to buy a large quantity and have them shipped directly to a TPGer just to get that designation on the label.
    Now that I think about it a little bit more, it may actually have an up side. When a single mint location can put out tens of millions of coins, these "First Day / Week / Month of Issues" imply some sort of rarity, which would be otherwise impossible to find. It may actually draw new comers into the hobby. If you're new, you may see one of these coins as unique or rare, and it only costs.... After all, most, if not all of us collectors are looking for something that WE perceive as rare. That's why we collect the most beautiful, undamaged, or whatever else that motivates us to squint into an eye piece, looking for just the right coin.
    I think as long as no one is being taken advantage of, lied to or being sold a counterfeit coin, if some of the designations that imply rarity draw more people into the hobby, then it cant be all bad then.
    Just my opinion.
     
  5. Long Beard

    Long Beard Well-Known Member

    At the end of the year the mintage will wind up in the 20,000,000 range. Neither facility stamping a mint mark. Regular label selling for $50.00, special label selling for $500.00. Bullion trading at $15.00 per ounce. And the answer is......
     
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  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    'S' less, 'P' less, I consider it utter nonsense. Fools who buy these unmarked shadow coins are dealing with the archain notion that such can be valuable future wise.
     
  7. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Ok. Thanks. Holy crap. No D's ? Guessing you forgot d's. Would that be considered like crazy deep coin collecting for the once that care. Does this really matter or it just for a choice few who really got to have these
     
  8. scsterry

    scsterry New Member

    Education. It is up to all of us to learn and to make wise purchases. Ultimately though, if someone wants to over spend on a coin, I guess that's their right. We cant mandate a persons purchases or their level of knowledge.
    I've lost money on coins more often than I would like to remember. But each time a lesson was learned.
    The only reason I purchase these ASE's from "other" mints is in the hope that they will be recognized as rarer than the majority of the ASE's. (Justified, or not.) On the other hand, I DO NOT buy a graded coin because of the "First Day of Issue" designation.
     
  9. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Yeah. It seem like a crazy chase
     
  10. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Hey...that first reverse proof was sweet. I never got one...but I heard about it.
     
  11. scsterry

    scsterry New Member

    BEAUTIFUL coin. I bought the pride of two nations set from the mint. I still look at it all the time. No label will make that coin more appealing or valuable.
     
  12. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Wanna give you a hug
    Has anyone bought from them ? Want to buy all the complete 68 thru now MInt sets often. Sounds good to a crazy gal. But nah
     
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  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    BOY. I hope we hear from this member. Photos please
     
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  14. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Photos of What?
     
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  15. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

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  16. Jim Dale

    Jim Dale Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the list. A couple of questions... Where are the "bullion" ASE's recorded, the ones without the mint mark? What are "Business Strikes"? Isn't "Burnished" the same as "Uncirculated"? I guess I'm not in it with the ASE's as you folks are. I have 3 ASE's that are without a mint mark. Aren't they "bullion"? Anyone have a good recommendation of a book that gives better definitions that the Red Book?
    I only collect coins that I like. I'm 72 and didn't start collection until I got my father's coin collection in 2007. This is the best place for info as well as getting your tail singed when you asked stupid questions, like me. Love ya, guys (and gals).
     
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  17. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Yes, ASE's are ridiculously confusing.

    Business strikes are inclusive of both bullion issues and burnished uncirculated issues. Bullion is not available direct from the Mint; the public has to go through a middleman.

    If you have 3 ASEs without a mint mark, then yes, I do believe that would make them bullion issue.
     
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  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    That whole collection
     
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  19. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Wow, I never thought about posting photos of the whole collection. But, I could work at it. I'm sure that many others have a more complete set. I was discussing a checklist to see what I might be missing.
     
  20. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    Here is a photo of part of my ASE set. It doesn't include the complete album of bullion release from 1986. But, there are the SF and W sets, 3 coin 20th, 5 coin 25th and some limited edition silver proof sets, at least 1 Proof and 1 Uncirculated from each year. Thanks for your interest in my collection. I was interested in a checklist to confirm if or not I had them all.
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  21. bradgator2

    bradgator2 Well-Known Member

    The logical side of me thinks the limited edition silver proof set is simply another way to repackage all the same stuff. But I do own a year (2017 I think)... and wow is it pretty.
     
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