new 1943 copper cent on ebay real or counterfeit?

well we'd better get up bright n' early tomorrow to re-report this fraud

 

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I found the article. Page #92, Sept. 22, 2008 of Coin World. My memory was correct. There are 11 known from Philadelphia, 1 from Denver, and 7 from SF. I did not see any speculation as to how many were actually made.

FWIW, there is some speculation that the Denver cent was hand fed into the presses by a mint employee.

 

you could have a field day finding and reporting counterfeit coins on ebay.

 

Still isn't pulled... :headbang:

 

It typically takes 1 to 2 days before they get to it. They also usually pull thing Sunday afternoon. My guess is it will disappear them.

 

I already rereported it and I'll do it again tomorrow , also sent the seller a letter telling him how valuable it is if real and to send it to Stacks
rzage:hatch::hammer:

 

thank you everyone, I hope we will all keep an eye on it. It is important to me that this gets removed. Thanks

 

1 day 9 hour left. I sure hope this is removed before then. I hope everyone reports this again today, for the poor buyer's sake.

 

$801!

 

a pictorial history of this piece is soon to follow

 

[heavy sarcasm]Nope !!! No evidence of any date tampering on that one ! :rolling:[/heavy sarcasm]

Hey... I passed 2,000 !

 

Ya know, I've just realized something.

The portion of E-bay bidders* who are "something for nothing" types look at a coin like this and say "Is there any chance it is the real thing ?"

A real numismatist looks at a potential treasure and says "Is there any chance it is NOT the real thing ?"




* there are many, many good people on E-Bay... both buying and selling.

 

FWIW, there are more than one CT member who have purposely bought (sometimes at very high costs) a coin known to be counterfeit/altered so as to keep some unsuspecting buyer from getting burnt.

 

I know members of CFE that have done that, then they dispute the coin's authenticity after the sale and refuse to pay for it. It usually ends up with the seller notifying Ebay that the bidder won't pay for the item and the Good Samaritan gets NARU'd.

Go figure! :goof:

Ribbit

 

Anybody ever see the 1838 seated liberty silver dollar that frequents coin shows? Saw it in Baltimore when I was there. Condition was XF. But guess what? they didn't make 'em till 1840 . . . Hmmmm maybe it was a proto type?

 

AJ did not get NARU'ed. I do not remember the other except that he did get NARU'ed, but later reapproved when it was determined that he was correct.

 

I wasn't talking about AJ.

The point was the correct way to do it, by reporting it and getting it removed, too often doesn't work so doing it the "wrong way" is the only option left on a Private Auction and afterwards, the bidder stands a chance of getting a Unpaid Item Strike and to get it removed, takes a serious amount of work and time, when the auction should have been removed in the first place.

The final point was, Ebay isn't concerned about fraud, it makes them money. :goof: Because if Ebay was concerned about fraud, they'd remove the Private Auction formats, but the argument there is, there are peeps that won't bid, so Ebay wants higher bids, so they can make more money, so that outweighs combatting fraud. :whistle:

Ribbit

 

Was it a Gobrecht ? Those started in 1836. Though many were proofs, they also made circulation strikes. Also, many proofs made it into circulation.

The Gobrecht has a different eagle - the "Flying Eagle cent" style.

If not a Gobrecht, maybe it was a pattern.

 

OK, so I'm ignorant.

What's "NARU" ?

 

It probably was and why they had it on display. Those are extremely hard to come by and extremely expensive. :bow:

Ribbit