Curious as to what grade I should put this at, and what I should put the starting bid at. I would put it at AU. From what Ive seen on the bay comparing coins to mine, I would have to say MS possibly if I use there grading scale. I am also wondering if this may be a variety as I see doubling on the E and S in STATES.
WAMike, It appears to be about an AU-50! The value should be around $160 to $170 but some coin values have stagnated due to the current financial fears. I hope this helps! Frank
Huntsman. Thanks for your input. I was thinking the same. But when I look at the way some of these Ebayers grade there coins.. Jeesh, Ive seen coins that would barely make a Fine and they are calling it AU+. lol What do you think about the doubling on the ES in STATES? Would that add any value?
WaMike: Nice piece, as for the "doubling" it isn't. They are 'repunched' letters, done by the die maker (sinker) as far as varieties, it is nice, but I don't believe that it is one of the "biggies" that would attract mucho bucks. But... I have been wrong before, just ask my wife. Still, nice coin. As long as you ignore eBay grading, and just be honest.
WaMike, I am sure that Treashunt meant to say 'Re-cut Letters" instead of "Repunched Letters! The Letters and some times the details such as features of Miss Liberty and/or Leaves within the Wreath are Re-cut to correct problems (damage) to the Die or when there is a design change to correct problems to all of the Dies that are in use for that year. The latter is usually done to correct problems such as Die wear and premature failure! Re-cut letters due to a design change result in a new Variety for that year. However, I am pretty sure that re-cutting of the letters just to correct problems with a specific Die, do not normally result in a new Variety unless the re-cutting is significant! Like Treashunt, I believe that your' coin has minimal re-cutting and I doubt that it is considered a Variety that is listed or unlisted and would have little if any value above another 1832 Half Cent in the same grade, color and condition! Frank
Nice coin!!!!, I like the toning on the reverse. Rims, stars, hair and full liberty. Looks like an AU to me. Love the look of that old copper.
This coin is a piece of art. I would LOVE to put it in my type collection since it emphasizes toned coins. What a terrific looking reverse.
First, it's a N-3 and second, while you were spending all your time looking at the recut S in STATES, you missed the recut D in UNITED. :kewl: On the reverse, I had concerns about the bumps and was worried it could be a counterfeit but after comparing yours to another one, it has the same bumps so the die was pitted from rust (read the write-up on this one to understand everything said above): http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=390&Lot_No=19119 I don't have the book on these to tell the die state but maybe Conder will show up and figure that part out, since die states can increase the value on these older coppers. But by what I can surmise from the write-up on Heritage, the earliest "perfect" die states may be the more desireable ones. hya: Gorgeous old gal! :thumb: Ribbit
I would be careful as to grading early coppers as some of the collectors of these coins are purists in their grading and evaluation. They are also some of the most knowledgeable people on the planet about these coins, their die states, and the minting processes of the time. If someone made me grade it, I would grade it at AU-53, and I think it is a beauty!!! This is a coin that anyone would be proud to have in their collection! Thanks for sharing!!
Well..... I have decided to list this guy on that dreaded site.. lol Its a nice coin in all, I just dont collect these guys.. I used the same pictures from here, hopefully my description is good enough to get top $ out of it.. lol
WaMike, It's clearly circulated, and a nice one at that. I'm thinking AU details, EAC 40. The hits on the neck are "prime focal areas", and the pit on the back costs a bit. Other than that, it's a solid planchet. Good strike. The photos have wonderful color. I bet it's nice in hand.
