Fraudulent Coin!

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  1. PassthePuck

    PassthePuck Well-Known Member

    I tried to complain to Paypal, but the service return department is closed for Corona Virus....figures!
     
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  3. joecoincollect

    joecoincollect Well-Known Member

    Well, I think some might argue that this coin is only worth its bullion value anyhow, the genuine coin that is
     
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  4. Inspector43

    Inspector43 Celebrating 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

    That may be true. But, if you want one in your collection of ASE bullion coins, you will pay a premium for it.
     
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  5. PassthePuck

    PassthePuck Well-Known Member

    Here are those pictures...
     

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  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Funky Chicken..........
     
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  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    A few grams short of a full package.
     
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  8. kaparthy

    kaparthy Well-Known Member

    The world has no shortage of ANA member dealers. Some of those are also members of PNG and IAPN, not to mention your own state and local clubs. Never deal with anyone you do not know. When I have been at an ANA convention and wanted to write a check for a coin, I am wearing a Member badge and also a Speaker ribbon and often as Judge ribbon. And still the dealer asks me who knows me and I can point to someone else on the floor and they wave at each other and the dealer accepts my check. Of course, now we do so much electronically even on the bourse floor. But the fact remains, it is just good business practice to depend on reputational gossip.

    Allow me to recommend a book, Bourgeois Virtues by Deirdre McCloskey.
    A potent source of bourgeois virtue and a check on
    bourgeois vice is the premium that a bourgeois society puts
    on discourse. The bourgeois must talk. The aristocrat gives a
    speech, the peasant tells a tale. But the bourgeois must in
    the bulk of his transactions talk to an equal. It is wrong to
    imagine, as modern economics does, that the market is a field
    of silence. "I will buy with you, sell with you, talk with
    you, walk with you, and so following.... What news on the
    Rialto?"
    For one thing, talk defines business reputation, as at the
    Iowa City cocktail party. A market economy looks forward and
    therefore depends on trust. The persuasive talk that estab-
    lishes trust is necessary for doing much business...

    https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/B/bo3750637.html
     
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  9. PassthePuck

    PassthePuck Well-Known Member

    Here's the Fraudulent Company. Now, when I saw the video, it didn't say where they were from until after I got the Coin. https://www.vindblomst.com/Products/list-r1.html But the video never showed that the company was in Australia until after you get the packing slip! Once I find the actual video, I will post it.
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2020
  10. Badger Mint

    Badger Mint Active Member

    Pretty obvious, whoever made the dies didn't polish the die blank very well before cutting it and whatever CNC mill and software he used to to cut the die didn't have the stepover set right.
     
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  11. Bayern

    Bayern Active Member

    Found this info by googling the company name- someone on reddit was asking if it was a legitimate site to buy silver, and among replies was a link to Facebook page with reviews stating the company is scamming people. Here is that page: https://m.facebook.com/pg/Vindblomst-Shop-111985093624079/reviews/?ref=page_internal&mt_nav=0
     
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  12. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Actually, looks like it was "3D" printed...:D;)
     
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  13. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    I appreciate you sharing this information and humbly accepting the flak! :D :singing:
     
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  14. Beardigger

    Beardigger Well-Known Member

    If you paid through Paypal, you should be able to dispute it through them.
     
  15. Beardigger

    Beardigger Well-Known Member

    If you paid through Paypal, you should be able to dispute it through them.
     
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  16. PassthePuck

    PassthePuck Well-Known Member

    I tried...but they only have a recording that states...Due to the Corona Virus, our staff is not here, please call back later!
     
  17. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Taking every precaution to ensure that you and your money stay socially distanced.
     
  18. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    You shouldn't need to call to open a dispute.

    https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/security/buyer-protection-resolution
     
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    PassthePuck Well-Known Member

  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    A horribly bad fake. Weight is wrong, the blue field of the flag is wrong, Liberty's neck is wrong, the obv fonts are wrong, the die orientation is wrong, and it is a 2013 with a reverse they stopped using in 2008. Plus other errors.
     
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  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    That neck is funny...
     
  22. PassthePuck

    PassthePuck Well-Known Member

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