Modern counterfeits vs. Ancient counterfiets

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by stainless, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    What do you guys think?

    We all know that people today counterfeit anceint coins (mostly cast). We also know back then that people made counterfeits also.

    So, in your opinion, is there a difference? Do you not mind buying ancient counterfeits (fourees, for example)?

    I honestly don't see the difference, other than it is older...It IS still a fake, IMO...maybe my taste will change, who knows. I never liked countermarks either, but now I don't have a problem with them (still wouldn't pay a premium for countermarks though).



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  3. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    There is a tremendous difference between the two. Contemporary counterfeits were made to circulate, and took an active role in history. In some ways, they can even be more interesting than official coinage. I love collecting them.

    I'm actually doing my Junior Thesis on the subject, "Counterfeit Coins in Roman Britain." Maybe the problem statement from my paper will help:

     
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  4. stainless

    stainless ANTONINIVS

    Wow! nice work. That is going to be interesting to read when all done.:thumb:


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  5. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    I think they are certainly interesting because they are still ancient...I find modern counterfeits interesting as well though. I dont collect them but I know there are people who do and find them more interesting than the real deal...but for my own collection I prefer the real deal as most ancient counterfeits are, to me, ugly.

    I hope we get to read the rest of your thesis when you complete it Ardatirion.
     
  6. George McClellan

    George McClellan Active Member

    Indeed! A coin is a "coin", after all.
    Whether subway, coal mine... lovely things that may clink or thud...
    ...that may brightly shine or darkly intrigue...
    One is helpless when confronted with their charm.
    Someone stop me before I buy again!
     
  7. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    For the most part I don't actively seek out ancient counterfeits, but I do own a few. IMO, a fourree doesn't count if you are trying to build something like an emperor set, because they were not even issued under his authority. But, as already stated, they can be fascinating in their own right, especially as they were meant to actually change hands, and many probably did, at least for a time.

    I don't collect modern fakes. I don't understand the appeal and would much rather have a hole in my album than a Bulgarian fake that could confuse my children and grandchildren someday.
     
  8. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Most people dont have a problem with ancient counterfeits (and some even collect modern ones). As far as I know I only have one:

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    Claudius. AD 41-54. Æ Sestertius (31.5mm, 18.67 g, 6h). Contemporary imitation of Rome mint issue. Laureate head right / Spes advancing left, holding up flower and raising hem of skirt. For prototype, cf. RIC I 99 and 115. Fine, green and brown patina.

    From the estate of Thomas Bentley Cederlind.
     
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