1860 Indian Head Rounded it Pointed Bust?

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  1. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    I can’t seem to decide which variety this is. What I do know is that there are a few very unfortunate rim dings keeping it from being a very nice coin. melt me know your thoughts on round vs. pointed. Feel free to throw a (details) grade estimate out there too.
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  3. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Not an expert, but I believe it's the pointed bust. I checked coinfacts and noticed that the center of the one is directly over a dentil, but on the rounded bust it is centered over a space between dentils. I found it hard to tell by the shape of the bust "peninsula."
     
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  4. YoloBagels

    YoloBagels Well-Known Member

    This is a very frustrating variety for me, but looking at online resources (coinfacts) I think one could safely say it's a Pointed bust. What gives it away is the position of the 1 above the denticle and the size/style of the date (pointed date is farther away from the rim).

    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1860-1c-pointed-bust/2056
     
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  5. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    Pointed bust it is then! That’s great news and was my inclination. I didn’t realize the denticles could be used as a guide. thoughts on grade?
     
  6. ldhair

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  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not sure but you are correct about those rim dings.
     
  8. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    without the rim dings, I would think a grade of 62-63.
     
  9. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

    It is a rounded bust, There is more space between the bust and the one on the pointed.
     
  10. White Ger. Shep. Lover

    White Ger. Shep. Lover Well-Known Member

    Pretty coin, Mark. You wonder how this coin sustained these sort of pronounced rim dings and yet most all else has been so nicely preserved? I'm thinking these dings occured early on, say before 1865. Probably in the midst of some sort of childs game, such as pitching pennies. Then for the next 155 years, it has been owned by much kinder and gentler hands. Stay with the trend, Mark......no penny pitching with this beauty!
     
  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    It's the rounded bust. The 1859 Indian Cent has the pointed bust, but since they all do, it doesn't matter. Here is an 1859 Indian.

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  12. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    Looks rounded to me. I do not know whether the denticles vs 1, space between date and bust or rim, etc. are diagnostics or not.
     
  13. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

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