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  1. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Post up your coins of these Brothers Tacitus and Florian

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    Tacitus
    Obv: IMP CM CL TACITVS AVG, radiate
    draped, cuirassed bust right
    Rev: SALVS AVG, Salus standing left,
    holding sceptre, feeding serpent
    rising from altar.
    AE Antoninianus. Rome mint. 4.38 grams
    Mintmark XXI delta. Estiot 128, La Venera 1855;
    RIC 93 var (Salus standing).
    CNG E auction 463 11 march 2020 lot 472
    Ex Phil Peck collection AKA Morris collection





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    Florian Æ Antoninianus. Serdica, AD 276. IMP C M ANN FLORIANVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust right / PROVIDEN D[E]OR, Providentia standing right, holding two standards, facing Sol holding globe with raised hand; star in field, KHA in exergue. RIC 111. 3.83g, 22mm, 5h.
     
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  3. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I'll play with two of mine

    Tacitus

    Obv:– IMP C CL TACITVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– PROVID DEOR, Providentia standing left, holding baton and cornucopia; at foot, globe
    Minted in Lugdunum (no marks), Emission 1, from October to December A.D. 275
    References:– Cohen 64. Bastien 41. RIC 49 Bust Type C

    Unusually youthful looking portrait given his age of 75.

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    Florian

    Obv:– IMP C M AN FLORIANVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– VIRTVS AVGVSTI, Emperor advancing right, holding a shield and spear, treading down captive.
    Minted in Lugdunum (IIII in exe) Emission 3 Officina 4, from September to October A.D. 276
    Reference:– Cohen 107. Bastien 150. RIC 16 Bust type C

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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Tacitus 275 - 276

    Ӕ silvered Antoninianus, Rome, 275

    21 x 23 mm - 4.07 g

    IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG

    Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.

    R/ LAETITIA FVND

    Laetitia standing left, holding wreath and anchor.
    XXIB in exergue.

    RIC Vi Rome 89b

    large, grey silvering patina, XF

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    Florianus (A.D. 275-276)


    Type: Silvered AE antoninianus, 23mm 4.1 grams, bulk of silvering intact.

    Obverse: IMP FLORIANVS AVG, Radiate portrait right, draped and cuirassed.

    Reverse: CONCORDIA MILITVM, Victory standing right, presenting wreath of victory to Florian standing opposite and holding spear.

    Mintmark: S. (Cyzicus)

    Reference: Cohen 15; Sear 11853.

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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Great coins! I don't have a Florian but I do have Tacitus. I like his protruding forehead and neckbeard :)

    Tacitus
    AE Antoninianus
    Ticinum
    Obverse: IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right Reverse: SALVS AVG, Salus seated left feeding serpent
    Mintmark T
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  6. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    The neckbeard is indeed nice!
     
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  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    TACITUS
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: CLEMENTIA TEMP, Tacitus receiving globe from Jupiter, Z in lower centre, XXI in ex.
    Struck at Antioch, 275-6 AD
    3.2g, 22mm
    RIC 210, Z
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    FLORIANUS
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP FLORIANVS AVG, radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: CONCORDIA MILITVM, Victory standing right presenting wreath to Florian standing left. Q in ex.
    Struck at Cyzicus, 276 AD
    2.9g, 21mm
    RIC 116q
     
  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    FLORIANUS

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    FLORIAN
    AE 23mm 3.54g Antoninian/Aurelian (VF, patina, deposits)
    AV: IMP C M AN FLORIANVS P AVG; radiate, cuirassed and draped with paludamentum, seen from rear bust r.
    REV: CONCORD MILIT; Emperor togate stg. r., clasping the hand of Concordia stg. l.
    IN EXE: S
    REF: LV 2738; RIC V-1 57var (unlisted bust type), RIC Online #4294 7 specs listed, only one in La Venera, and only 2 from prior sales; 1st issue for Siscia mint, 2nd officina, july-august 276AD.
    A rare coin from a very brief reign, as Florian has only reigned for a couple of moths in the summer of 276AD.
    Ex: @seth77


    TACITUS

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    RI Tacitus 275-276 CE AE Ant Providentia
     
  9. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Tacitus was about 75 years old when he was selected emperor in AD 25-Sept-275 - ruled for about a year and a half and died in Cappadocia in the Spring of 276:
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    Tacitus, 275-276 AD, Antoninianus, Lugdunum mint, struck November-December 275 AD
    Obv: IMP C CL TACITVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev: PAX PVBLICA, Pax standing left, holding branch in right hand, transverse scepter in left
    Ref: RIC V 45
    Although it looks like there is no A - with a careful look - it seems the A might have been clogged, but present.
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    Florianus succeeded him, but didn't last long - his own troops murdered him after only 2-3 months - before Probus took over: Florianus Militum Blu.jpg
    Florianus, AD 276, Cyzicus, Antoninianus
    Obv: IMP FLORIANVS AVG, bust right, radiate, cuirassed and draped with paludamentum
    Rev: CONCORDIA MILITVM, Victory standing right, holding wreath in right hand and palm against left shoulder, facing Emperor in military dress standing left, right hand outstretched and holding long scepter in left hand; P in exergue.
     
  10. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

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    Florianus RIC 116 CONCORDAI MILITVM

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    Tacitus RIC 208 SPES PVBLICA

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    Tacitus RIC 14/15 MARTI PACIF

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    Tacitus RIC 58 SALVS PVBLICA

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    Tacitus RIC ? CLEMENTIA TEMP (Not sure why I don't have a RIC number on this one... it may be unlisted... I'll have to go look at my records.) ...yep, unlisted officina.

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    Tacitus RIC 82 AEQVITAS AVG
     
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  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    My most photogenic Tacitus:

    [​IMG] Tacitus, AD 275-276.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 3.57 gm, 21.1 mm.
    Ticinum, AD 276.
    Obv: IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: VICTORIA GOTTHI, Victoria standing left, holding wreath and palm; P in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 172; Cohen 158; Sear 11821; Hunter 59; CBN 1676.

    Here's one of Florian with a CONCORDIA MILITVM reverse. I suppose there was "harmony of the soldiers" -- until they switched sides and killed him!

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    Florian, AD 276.
    Roman billon Aurelianus, 3.28 g, 21.2 mm, 12 h.
    Cyzicus, officina 3; issue 1, AD 276.
    Obv: IMP FLORIANVS AVG, Bust right, radiate, cuirassed and draped with paludamentum.
    Rev: CONCORDIA MILITVM, Victory stg. r., holding wreath in r. hand and palm against l. shoulder, facing Emperor in military dress stg. l., r. hand outstretched and holding long sceptre in l. hand; T in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 116; MER/RIC temp #4530; Cohen 15; CBN 1982-3; RCV 11853; Hunter 20.
     
  12. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Tacitus, Serdica mint with INVICTVS in obverse legend / VICTORIA PERPETVA AVG
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    double strength alloy marked XI (10 parts alloy to 1 part silver) Antioch
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    Florian (my only) Serdica (not in RIC?) - MANNIVS obverse
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  14. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Nice ones

    I can join the party

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    Tacitus, Antoninianus - Ticinium mint, AD 275-276
    IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, Radiate bust of Tacitus right
    SECVRIT PERP, Securitas standing left leaning on column, retrograde µ at exergue
    4.03 gr
    Ref : RCV #11812, Cohen #131, RIC V (1) 163
    Thanks to Helvetica for RIC reference and help on exergue


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    Florianus, Antoninianus - Lyon mint, 3rd emission, 1st officina
    IMP C M AN FLORIANVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right seen from front (A)
    TEMPORVM FELICITAS, Felicitas standing raight, holding caduceus in right hand and cornucopia in left hand. I at exergue (1st officina)
    4.1 gr
    Ref : RCV # 11874v., Bastien # 146 pl. XVI, RIC # 12, C # 89, La Venèra hoard # II.2/2632

    Q
     
  15. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Well, as strictly a First Century guy I can only offer these two Flavian brothers.

    This is my first denarius featuring them.

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    Vespasian
    AR Denarius, 3.04g
    Rome Mint, January - June 70 AD
    Obv: IMP CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG; Head of Vespasian, laureate, r.
    Rev: CAESAR AVG F COS CAESAR AVG F PR; Bare heads of Titus on l. and Domitian on r., facing one another
    RIC 16 (R). BMC 2. RSC 5. BNC 1.
    Acquired from Ephesus Numismatics, November 2005.
     
  16. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    Interesting - prompted me to pull up this paper (Esty, Equall, Smith) confirming higher silver content ~10% v ~5% for an XXI. Anything known about why? did others mint double strength coins?
     
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  17. bcuda

    bcuda El Ibérico loco

    Question on my first post of Florian above it says RIC 111, I looked in wildwinds and it might be RIC 110V I am just not sure if the mint mark on mine is KHA or KHΔ. What RIC should it be ?
     
  18. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    For a second opinion, I would have called it KAΔ and looking at the obverse legend on (110 111) I think you have it right in the OP:
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    The legend from Windwinds (110V) : IMP C M ANN FLORIANVS P AVG
    FYI - a reverse die match to your coin here (RIC temp #4490)
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Be careful, @bcuda ! He is calling you a cad! :D
     
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  20. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

  21. Jims Coins

    Jims Coins Well-Known Member

    FA #151. Wayne Phillips 5-15-95 $30.00 - Bronze coin (AE Antoninianus) minted at Ticinum during the reign of TACITUS between 275 - 276 A.D. Obv. IMP.C.M.CL.TACITVS.AVG.: Rev. PROVIDE.AVG.: Providentia stg. l., holding globe and sceptre. RCS #3309. RICV# 152 pg.341.

    FB #266. Frank S. Robinson 5-18-98 $82.00 - Bronze Coin (AE Antoninianus) minted at Serdica during the reign of FLORIAN in 276 A.D. Obv. IMP.C.M.ANN.FLORIANVS.AVG.: Rad., dr. & cuir. bust r. Rev. PROVIDEN.DEOR.: Providentia stg. l., holding two ensigns, facing Sol stg. l., r. hand raised, l holding globe. RICV #111 pg.360. DVM #13 pg.260. VF or better, centered, obv. Mostly soft, silvering with some dusty grey-brown tone & gentle porosity on obv. Nice strong portrait.

    FBA #345. 5-18-98 - Bronze Coin (AE Antoninianus) minted at Ticinum during the reign of FLORIAN in 276 A.D. Obv. IMP.C.M.AN.FLORIANVS.P.AVG.: Rad., dr. & cuir. bust r. Rev. CONCORDIA.MILIT.: FLORIAN stg. r., clasping hand of Concordia stg. l. RICV #57 pg.355.

    FA-151 OBV.jpg FA-151 REV.jpg FAA-295 OBV.jpg FB-266 REV.jpg FBA-345 OBV.jpg FBA-345 REV.jpg FBB-354 OBV.jpg FBB-354 REV.jpg FBB #354. 5-18-98 - Bronze Coin (AE Antoninianus) minted at Cyzicus during the reign of FLORIAN in 276 A.D. Obv. IMP.FLORIANVS.AVG.: Rad., dr. & cuir. bust r. Rev. CONCORDIA.MILITVM.: Victory stg. r., holding palm, presenting wreath to FLORIAN stg. l., holding sceptre. RICV #116 pg.360.
     
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