Help with Grade of 1915 Eagle

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  1. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    I've had this Eagle for a while now. Bought it raw from a trusted local dealer. I have always listed it as an AU-58. I recently checked it against Photograde but I haven't done any better at being sure about the grade.

    Can anyone offer an opinion on this coin? It actually looks pretty good in hand with a good bit of luster.

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  3. Arkos

    Arkos Member

    I would say MS/PR-65
     
  4. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    In my opinion, I'd grade your coin as an AU-55. There seems to be more wear present on the eagle's feathers than on the AU-58 example PCGS has in their Photograde guide.
     
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  5. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Lots of similarly-oriented marks in the surfaces of this coin. AU55 if not a details coin.
     
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  6. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    I think those lines look worser than they are.
    I'm in the AU55 camp.
    Honest wear and a lot of luster.
     
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  7. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Huh? A) not a proof coin B) not BU, the coin has obvious wear C) it was lightly cleaned too
     
  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yes, great looking coin but I agree on the cleaning, shows up more on the reverse! :D At least it's not polished! :singing:
     
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  9. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    What is the giveaway that this one was cleaned? I find a cleaning easy to spot on silver coins but struggle with it on gold.

    And I have a thought on this one too. Old collectors used to put their coins in drawers in a display cabinet. Each time the drawer would open or close, the coin would slide a bit and develop a rub on the high points. I see an uncirculated obverse. Could the eagles feathers possibly be worn because this piece was in a display cabinet years ago?
     
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  10. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    My initial reaction was that this was a slider as well, I see an MS-60 obverse with an AU-55 reverse. I would call it an AU-58. Now, with that said, gold coins are not really my specialty area.
     
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  11. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I think you may have just answered a long standing question for me..... So that is where the term “slider” comes from?
     
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  12. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Now that I think about it, that may be my definition of the term "slider." Perhaps others have different definitions. I, like you, was not entirely sure what it meant, and somehow that came to be my definition of it.
     
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  13. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The fields look like an AU-58, but the devices look like an AU-55. Hence AU-55.
     
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  14. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    There is clearly high point rub on the portrait and the eagle. If the fields show more than slight luster breaks, 55. If not, 58
     
  15. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Cleaned and au 55
     
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  16. LRC-Tom

    LRC-Tom Been around the block...

    I agree with AU-55. The flatness on the eagle's shoulder is the giveaway. Not sure about cleaned..maybe.
     
  17. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    As I understand it, a slider could go both ways, either AU or MS...
     
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  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I'd say 58, very nice
     
  19. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

  20. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    It's really evident in the fields of the reverse, especially above and below IN GOD WE TRUST, then again across the eagle. I give it an AU55, nice coin but with her cheek scraped and under the headband wear, the best I can do is a nice 55. :D
     
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  21. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    A lot of very intriguing opinions, for which I am grateful. Even though this is not an official GTG event, the tabulation of opinions is:

    Grade: MS-65 - One
    AU-58 - Two
    AU-55 - Six
    AU-53 - One

    Cleaned: Yes - Three
    Maybe - Two

    So, the synthesis of my own opinion, enriched with your expertise is:

    Grade is AU-55 with obverse clearly better than reverse. This follows the general principle that the reverse can't help the grade but it can hurt it.

    Was the coin cleaned? I'm saying "yes" even though only 3 respondents out of 11 said "yes" and 2 said "maybe". Maybe those that were silent on the issue were just being polite?

    So, I am left with the conclusion that the coin received a light, mechanical cleaning. It is probably enough to prevent a straight grade if submitted to the TPGs. I don't intend to do that.

    Thanks to everyone for their participation.
     
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