Warning: possible 1893-s scam on ebay

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by ksparrow, Oct 11, 2008.

  1. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    A seller with an old account and very limited activity until this august now has an AU 1893-s Morgan up for bid, the description is garbled and bears little relationship to the imaged item in an NGC slab. Someone on the Coin Forgery Group has checked the usual sources for stolen photos and come up empty. view the auction here: http://cgi.ebay.com/1893-S-Morgan-Dollar-AU-RARE-RARE_W0QQitemZ110297396195

    I do not know for a fact that this is a scam, but it certainly looks worrisome.
     
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  3. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I totally agree that this is suspect. The seller has pretty much sold only Disney lapel pins in the past and this is a major jump from those. I'd like to know more about how he came to own such a piece? They don't just drop out of the sky . . . unless they're stolen.

    Because of the seller's lack of history selling coins, I would not bid on this but that doesn't mean it isn't legit, it only means it's ripe for being a scam so I'd recommend staying away.

    Ribbit :)
     
  4. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    reported, the coin pictured is an NGC, the coin in the auction is not.....
    spamming?
     
  5. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    There are a ton of errors in this listing:

    Listing Title:

    ******1893-S Morgan Dollar AU **** RARE RARE

    Listing Pic:

    1893-S Morgan NGC AU-50

    What is said within listing:

    Calls it a 1883-S
    Graded by ANACS
    Graded by WCG
    We have 1893-S Morgan dollar in beautiful shape also coming to auction.

    By what I can tell, the seller used a template to list these and didn't make the proper changes to the template to list this and other coins properly.

    I personally wouldn't condemn him for the boo-boo's but I am leary of this. Also, if it is legit, the coin for sale is a NGC AU-50 1893-S Morgan and not any of the other ones within the description. ;)

    Ribbit :)
     
  6. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    Yeah, the description reads like it was written by someone out in lala land. Bidding is over $5400, I can only "hope" they are shills, because I have a very bad feeling about this.
     
  7. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    Agree completely with what has already been said. This guy bought an 1883s in a wcg slab not too long ago. Funny business.
     
  8. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    I reported it for the wacko listing. Why do I have the feeling that the 'winner' is going to receive an 1883-s in a WCG slab, with the seller claiming it was what was in the description? (Which would of course be a pathetic excuse, but he would have time to empty his paypal account and abscond.)
     
  9. diocletian

    diocletian Senior Member

    "Why do I have the feeling that the 'winner' is going to receive an 1883-s in a WCG slab,"

    Exactly.
     
  10. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    The coin offered is in a WCG holder. OUCH. :headbang:

    Using an NGC picture is beyond misleading. It's fraudulent. Thanks for dialing this one in, Jack. :secret:

    I'm with ya... I wouldn't condemn someone for making errors either.

    But a legit AU '93-S is potentially a $20,000 coin.

    Surely any real dealer would get their act straight on such a listing and not have sloppy errors on such a piece.
     
  11. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Ditto. Thanks for the heads-up, guys.

    The Coin Talk Posse rides again ! :vanish:
     
  12. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    This so called "Dealer" deals in Mickey Mouse pins (Disney Lapel pins) so they don't have a clue when it comes to coins. :goofer: Look at their feedback as a seller to see what they've been selling prior to this group of coins. ;)

    ribbit :)
     
  13. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    "Mickey Mouse" is right. :goofer:

    I just hope E-Bay puts the kibosh :hammer: on this listing before some poor sap loses big money.

    Over $5400... crazy benjamins.
     
  14. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Wonder if they'll pull it just for the impossible to understand discription .
    rzage
     
  15. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    They ought to boot the seller off Ebay for being stupid. :D

    Wait! :eek: That would eliminate a lot of sellers. :rolleyes:

    Ribbit :cool:
     
  16. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    That would probably eliminate all the sellers:eek::D
    rzage:)

    except all the good folks of CT
     
  17. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    It would also eliminate at least one buyer - the guy who bid that thing up to 5400 bills. :goof:
     
  18. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I would not bid that amount on an auction from someone I don't know. :goof: I guess Ebay is Gump City? :whistle:

    Ribbit :)
     
  19. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    It takes two Gumps :goofer: :goofer: to make a deal like that.
     
  20. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts

    i have got this rare rupee ........ :whistle:
     
  21. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    5 bucks! :D

    Ribbit :cool:
     
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