Does this look like MS65 to you?dd: I'm not thinking thats a very good deal. http://moderncoinmart.com/cart1/product.php?productid=17157&cat=79&page=1
That looks worse than my coin and I wouldn't dare send it out to be graded. Looks like it has been circulated roughly. zg
I don't see any wear that jumps out, just a ton of bag marks. I'd imagine they used that thought plus the fact that it is rare because there is no edge lettering...and basically market graded it. I don't feel that it's MS65, but I could believe a lower MS grade.
Also, the pics may make it look worse than it really is. Sometimes when I take pics of my coins, things will pop out that I can't see while looking at it. I have had some coins look like they had these huge marks on them and I can't see anything under my 16x loupe. Otherwise, that prez looks kinda beat up. I would have to agree with Richie though, no wear marks, just lots of bag marks.
I find it hard to beleive that scratches, dents, and dings don't affect the grading of a coin. That coin looks like 80 grit sandpaper was used on it. I'm sorry, no insult intended. zg
At a coin show a dealer that knows me fairly well showed me a slab that said the coin, a Cent, inside was an MS something, can't remember exactly what. The coins inside was a Dime and probably a G-4 at best. I closely examined the slab and could not find how it was done. The dealer told me he does that to show people this is just one more thing that makes slabs not to reliable.
I agree, but zero tolerance on grading is as difficult to acheive as are integrated circuit modules in the electronics industry. That's why there is regrading. mistakes/errors are mistakes/errors. This is one. zg