Chopmarks on this 8 Reales?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by tenacious, Oct 1, 2008.

  1. tenacious

    tenacious Member

    Do these look like chopmarks to you? Or...? Thanks for your help. Sorry I wish I had better close ups.

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Don't look like any I've ever seen.
     
  4. tenacious

    tenacious Member

    Thanks GDJMSP. :)

    The two marks on the left do look random. But I wasn't sure when I saw that circle mark. That mark doesn't look random. I don't know what that might be from or for. Maybe it has no significance at all.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Oh I think it was post mint, but it could have been done by anybody.
     
  6. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    The marks do look like small chopmarks to me.
     
  7. tenacious

    tenacious Member

    Thanks willieboyd2. I go back and forth on this. It's a coin I'm considering buying but there is a language barrier with the seller so it's hard to get a better verbal description of the coin and marks.


    I don't know if this site has been posted before but some of you may find it of use, or at least interesting:

    Chopmarked Foreign Silvers

    Make sure to look at the coins under the Specimens section. He shows good examples but I wish the pictures were bigger and clearer.


    It was after looking through the examples that made me think again that those may be chopmarks on the above coin. The site shows 2 types of fonts for the Chinese characters.

    Scroll down on this page to see the 2 font types

    - the smaller font (Type 1) - many are not so easily recognizable as Chinese characters, some look like accidental dings on the coin.

    - the larger font (Type 2) - these are easily recognizable as Chinese characters.


    The marks on the coin I posted could be the smaller font Type 1 chopmarks. But it's hard to say. I think I will just buy the coin and see. Either way I'm going to stop obsessing about it.

    I just really enjoy researching coins and their history.
     
  8. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    "there is a language barrier with the seller"

    The seller isn't located in China, is he?

    A lot of counterfeit silver coins come out of China.
     
  9. tenacious

    tenacious Member

    No, not China. I'm avoiding any sellers from China for those reasons. But I appreciate the warning.
     
  10. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    It doesn't matter where the coins are located as the sellers could have bought coins from China.
     
  11. tenacious

    tenacious Member

    Of course the fakes from China have been dispersed to many other countries and sellers.
     
  12. nugget_hill

    nugget_hill Senior Member

    It looks like the punch mark from a ticket canceller regards Harry
     
  13. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    I've been seeing the quality counterfeits all over Ebay so like you said, it doesn't matter anymore. ;) I also think there are a few sellers that are buying direct from Chna then reselling them as authentic but since most deals for the non-replica stamped coins don't go through Ebay, they are hard to trace.

    Ribbit :)
     
  14. Coinfreak~24

    Coinfreak~24 Active Member

    nice find and sweet marking's
     
  15. tenacious

    tenacious Member

    :) After collecting ancients for many years, in the last year I've started collecting early Spanish money of the New World.


    You're right, you just can't only avoid the Chinese sellers and think you're safe. (BTW, the coin I posted above is not from eBay. I rarely buy coins there anymore.)
     
  16. nugget_hill

    nugget_hill Senior Member

    Very nice looks like its F to VF 1745 Mexico city mint 8 reals :thumb: regards Harry
     
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