To CAC or not to CAC - official game thread

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Summary

Rd. 1: 1921 MS 65 Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

Rd. 2: 1835 AU 50 Green CAC 50c--> Yes: 2 vs No: 8

Rd. 3: 1939-S Oregon MS 65 Gold CAC 50c--> Yes: 10 (8 Green and 2 Gold) vs No: 0

Rd. 4: 1838 AU 58 Green CAC (Gold $5)--> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

Rd. 5: 1908 MS 63 Green CAC (Gold $20)—> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

Rd. 6: 1885-CC MS 63 PL Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 8 vs No: 1

Rd. 7: 1946-S MS 66 Green CAC Walker 50c--> Yes: 7 (6 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

Rd. 8: 1885-S MS 62 NOT CAC Morgan--> Yes: 5 (4 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

Rd. 9: 1830 EF 45 UNKNOWN CAC 50c--> Yes: 10 vs No: 1

Rd. 10*: 1899 MS 65 BN UNKNOWN CAC 1c--> Yes: 4 vs No: 5

Rd. 11: 1942 MS 65 Gold CAC 50c--> Yes: 4 (4 Green and 0 Gold) vs No: 2

Rd. 12: 1940-D MS 67 Star UNKNOWN CAC 10c--> Yes: 3 vs No: 4

Rd. 13*: 1884-O MS 61 Gold CAC $1--> Yes: 9 (4 Green and 5 Gold) vs No: 0

Rd. 14: 1827 AU 55 CAC 10c--> Yes: 1 vs No: 7

Rd. 15: 1851 MS 66 CAC 1c--> Yes: 5 vs No: 4

Rd. 16: 1919-S MS 65 Green CAC 10c--> Yes: 12 (11 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 0

Rd. 17: 1922 MS 65 NOT CAC Peace $1--> Yes: 10 vs No: 1

Rd. 18: 1851 Au 58+ CAC 1/2C--> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

Rd. 19: 1839-O AU 53 NO CAC 50c--> Yes: 6 (5 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 3

Rd. 20: 1920 MS 65 NO CAC 25c--> Yes: 4 vs No: 6

Rd. 21: 1862 PF 64 CAC H10c--> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

Rd. 22: 1869 PF 63 Gold CAC 10c--> Yes: 7 (5 Green and 2 Gold) vs No: 0

Rd. 23: 1834 XF 45 CAC $5--> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

Rd. 24: 1835 XF 40 CAC 25c--> Yes: 8 (7 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 2

Green CAC on coin and deserves it: 8
Green CAC on coin and doesn't deserve it: 5
Gold CAC on coin and deserves it: 1
Gold CAC on coin but should only be Green: 3
Gold CAC on coin but should not sticker:
Failed to sticker but deserves a sticker: 3
Failed to sticker and should not sticker: 1
Unknown sticker status and deserves a sticker:1
Unknown sticker status and does not deserve a sticker:2


Note: if we don’t know the status of a coin before the reveal and more people say green CAC for a gold CAC coin, then it will go in the area of “Gold CAC on coin but should only be Green” ....see round 3 as the example case

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Rd. 10 was 4-4...I interpreted that CircCam would consider it a no (based on a similar example), which swayed the overall vote to a lean towards no.
Rd. 13 was tied between green and gold at 4-4...I interpreted that geekpryde would consider it a gold

 

@Mainebill is up
@Publius2 is next after
and then @Santinidollar third
followed by @ldhair fourth

 

Put me down for forth please.

 

Ok new pickup. Pcgs ms 62. Cac or no

 

I'll say YES to Green

 

Beauty. I say solid grade that earned a green CAC.

 

If the toning on the reverse is as bright as your photo makes it look, I'll say no bean.

 

I'll go with yes on the bean. I love the coin.

 

Is a true view. I can post another pic. I don’t have it in hand yet

 

It's hard to tell as I can't see why it's an MS62. Trueview's just don't cut it for me....they always seem to make the coin look "unreal".

Sooo...my best guess it's an easy GREEN and possible GOLD.

jom

 

Are those gouges in the left obverse field? Overall this is a pretty coin; especially the sunset toning on the reverse. The reverse is very clean and void of marks. I would net grade this coin MS63 so I'd go gold bean.

 

I'll wait for new pics to guess on this one.

 

I see enough small nicks and ticks on the figure of Liberty and some other obverse locations to give it a 63. The reverse looks gem to me. So, I think it's a green bean.

 

Sellers own pics

 

That looks nicer. I'd say give it a green bean.

 

The seller’s photos make it look like it’s AT. Sorry. I once owned an AT’d 1874 With Arrows half that looked like that. I might have photos. AT=Artificial Toning.

Given that you bought it, it probably isn’t.

This appears to be a dipped coin that “turned right” over the years. I have had a couple of these as a collector that I held for a long time.

I think there is a good chance that it will not bean. When JA was courting me for support, he had a discussion about dipped coins. If it was a modern coin, e.g. a Walker, and you couldn’t tell if it had been dipped or not, we agreed bean it. If it was obviously dipped, no bean.

 

I found it! Here is the 1873 With Arrows Half Dollar that I once owned that was AT. I hope I didn't break any rules here.

 

Anyone else. I’ll call it at dinner time

 

Neither of those sets of pics give me any indication of what this coin might grade. The sellers pics, as johnmilton mentioned, make it look AT (if you had only posted those, that would have been my guess). The PCGS pics make it look more like natural toning, but are absolutely impossible to grade from.

I'm not going to post an opinion on the Caciness of this one.